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Saddam Vows No Return to 'Unjust' Court
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/6/05 | Hamza Hendawi - ap

Posted on 12/06/2005 9:54:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Saddam Hussein shouted Tuesday that he will not return "to an unjust court" when it convenes for a fifth session the following day. As the end of the session, when the judges decided to resume the trial Wednesday, Saddam suddenly shouted: "I will not return. I will not come to an unjust court! Go to hell!"

Saddam also complained that he had no fresh clothes and had been deprived of shower and exercise facilities. "This is terrorism," he said.

At that point, the audio was cut off to the media gallery and the curtain drawn so reporters could not tell what transpired afterward. It was not clear if the court would compel Saddam to attend.

Iraqi lawyer Bassem al-Khalili told The Associated Press that Saddam has no right to boycott the session and that "a court can bring a defendant by force to the court according to Iraqi law."

Saddam's latest in-court outburst came after a day of testimony in which a woman testified that she had been abused and tortured by Saddam's agents. Her voice disguised but her weeping still apparent, the woman testified from behind a screen that she suffered beatings and electric shocks by the former president's agents.

Saddam sat stone-faced, silently taking notes as the woman, known only as "Witness A," told the court how she and dozens of other families from the town of Dujail were arrested in a crackdown after a 1982 assassination attempt against him.

Two other witnesses — a man and a woman — also testified Tuesday, all with their identities concealed.

"I was forced to take off my clothes, and he raised my legs up and tied up my hands. He continued administering electric shocks and whipping me and telling me to speak," Witness A said of Wadah al-Sheik, an Iraqi intelligence officer who died of cancer last month.

Several times, the woman — hidden behind a light blue curtain — broke down. "God is great. Oh, my Lord!" she moaned, her voice electronically deepened and distorted.

She strongly suggested she had been raped, but did not say so outright. When Chief Judge Rizgar Mohammed Amin asked her about the "assault," she said: "I was beaten up and tortured by electrical shocks."

The witness, who was 16 at the time of her arrest, repeated that she had been ordered to undress.

"They made me put my legs up. There were more than one of them, as if I were their banquet, maybe more than five people, all of them officers," she said.

"Is that what happens to the virtuous woman that Saddam speaks about?" she wept, prompting the judge to advise her to stick to the facts.

She also said al-Sheik fired a gun at the wall to scare her.

When asked by the judge which of the defendants she wanted to accuse, "Witness A" identified Saddam. "When so many people are jailed and tortured, who takes such a decision?" she said.

She later quoted a security officer as telling her, "You should thank your God because you are here in the Intelligence Center. If you were in the directorate of security, no woman would remain virgin." Nevertheless, she also said that many fellow female detainees lost their virginity to security guards.

Saddam and the others are on trial for the killing of more than 140 Shiites in the town of Dujail north of Baghdad and could be executed by hanging if convicted. The crackdown followed an assassination attempt, which Saddam told the court Tuesday was ordered by Iran.

The measures taken to preserve the first witness' anonymity complicated the testimony. At first, defense attorneys complained they could not hear her because of the voice distortion. The judge then ordered the voice modulator shut off, but then the audience could not hear at all, so Amin ordered a recess, and the modulator was fixed, allowing all to hear.

Defense attorneys insisted on face-to-face questioning of the witness and demanded that the defendants should also see her. So, after she gave her testimony for more than an hour, Amin ordered the session closed to the public, pulled screens in front of the press and visitors' gallery, and cut the sound.

Later, a second woman took the stand, identified as "Witness B." She said she was 74 and recounted how her family was arrested in 1981 — a year before the Dujail incident.

Until that point in her testimony, her voice was modulated. But again, the judge decided it wasn't working properly. The system was turned off and all of the electronic feeds from the court room cut, including to the press gallery, before the witness could explain the relevance of a 1981 arrest.

"Witness C," a man, testified that he was taken by security forces along with his parents and two infant sisters. They spent 19 days at the intelligence headquarters and 11 months in Abu Ghraib, where his father died after being beaten on the head, he said. Then they spent three years in the desert.

"At the intelligence headquarters, they put two clips in my ears," the witness said, adding that he was told that if he lied, he would be given an electric shock. When he answered a question, the shock was administered, he said.

"In prison they used to bring men to the women's room and ask them to bark like dogs," he said. "My father died in prison and I was not able to see him." He added that his father, who was 65 and had heart problems, was kept in a room about 50 yards from him.

That prompted an outburst from Saddam, who complained of his own conditions in detention. He said the court had time to listen to the witnesses' complaints "but does anyone ask Saddam Hussein whether he was tortured? Whether he was hit?"

He urged the judge to investigate his conditions because "it is your duty as judges to investigate the crime at its scene."

"I live in an iron cage covered by a tent under American democratic rule. You are supposed to come see my cage," he told Amin. "Please, Mr. Judge, do not accept any insult to Iraq. It doesn't matter if he insults Saddam Hussein, because the Americans and the Zionists want to execute Saddam Hussein. What does the execution of Saddam Hussein matter? He has given himself to Iraq from the day he was at school and has been sentenced to death three times already. Saddam Hussein and his comrades are not afraid of execution."

Witnesses have the option of not having their identities revealed as a security measure to protect them against reprisals by Saddam loyalists. The first two witnesses — both men who took the stand Monday — allowed their names to be announced and their pictures to be transmitted around the world.

Although Saddam confronted the male witnesses Monday, he made no outbursts as Witness A described four years in prison after she and other families were swept up in Dujail following the shooting attack on the presidential motorcade.

She said she was held and tortured at a detention facility there before being taken to the notorious Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad. Later they were taken to a desert facility outside the southern city of Samawah.

At the Dujail facility, she said she was thrown into a room with red walls and ceiling in an intelligence department building and that prisoners were given only bread and water to eat.

"After all this torture that we went through, would anybody still have an appetite to eat?" she said.

At Abu Ghraib, the guards stripped one of her male relatives, a deaf mute, and tied a rope to his genitals, pulling him into the cells where the women were kept, she said. Insects were everywhere — in cells and on their clothes, she said, adding that inmates used prison blankets to make underwear and fashioned shoes out of cardboard and strings.

She said one woman gave birth in the prison. "The baby got stuck between her legs. Another woman tried to help her, but the guards told her it was none of her business. The baby suffocated between her legs," she said. She said her sister and sister-in-law also gave birth while in detention.

"I was freed at the end when I was 20," she said. "All my friends became doctors and teachers, and I am now just a housewife."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: court; iraq; noreturn; saddam; saddamtrial; unjust; vows
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To: NormsRevenge
Saddam also complained that he had no fresh clothes and had been deprived of shower and exercise facilities. "This is terrorism," he said.

I got this far and had to check to see if it was a scrappleface spoof.

21 posted on 12/06/2005 10:04:29 AM PST by kanawa
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To: NormsRevenge

Not too bad a rendition of air guitar-

(I'm on a... ) Highway to Hell !


22 posted on 12/06/2005 10:04:29 AM PST by railsplitter (with extreme prejudice- destroy the enemy... foreign and domestic)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ramsey Clark at work? It's his MO, for sure. Turn the thing into more of a circus than it already is.


23 posted on 12/06/2005 10:05:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: wideawake
Saddam's death will give relief to many of the Iraqis. These people remember such horrors by their own leader against their own countrymen....against humanity itself.

By the way, if Ramsey accidently gets taken out, I have no problem!!

24 posted on 12/06/2005 10:06:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Saddam also complained that he had no fresh clothes

No suit for you!

25 posted on 12/06/2005 10:07:51 AM PST by King of Florida
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To: NormsRevenge

Just shoot this bastard in the head alaready.


26 posted on 12/06/2005 10:11:31 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: NormsRevenge
I wonder if the court's plan is to have sentences handed out and carried through prior to the December election. They sure don't have much time left if that is the case. Of course the panel of judges could simply say they have received adequate testimony against them, and give his lawers if they are to return, just so many days to make their case.
Carrying out the punishment should only take an hour or so. No reponse neccessary, just thinking out loud.
27 posted on 12/06/2005 10:11:41 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: NormsRevenge
Saddam suddenly shouted: "I will not return. I will not come to an unjust court! Go to hell!"

At which point they should have stuck a pistol to his head and ended this charade.

28 posted on 12/06/2005 10:16:58 AM PST by badbass
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To: Marine_Uncle
Saddam also complained that he had no fresh clothes and had been deprived of shower and exercise facilities. "This is terrorism," he said.

At that point, the audio was cut off to the media gallery and the curtain drawn so reporters could not tell what transpired afterward

Hopefully they stripped him hosed him down with a fire hose and placed womens panties on his head!

29 posted on 12/06/2005 10:17:01 AM PST by marlon
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To: NormsRevenge

Can't we just shoot the effer and get this over and done with?

No. I guess not. The Democrats would be outraged, and we don't want to upset those courageous defenders of democracy.


30 posted on 12/06/2005 10:20:01 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: NormsRevenge

Great. Let's move to the penalty phase!


31 posted on 12/06/2005 10:20:21 AM PST by jw777
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To: NormsRevenge

Well since he had the audacity to complain, they should take away his day old clothes , give him a fresh pair of underwear (nothing else) and tell him to be sure he brushes his teeth before heading to court--else he might offend the judge.

Someone needs to get the message across to him loud and clear that he is no longer in charge and yelling at the judge direspectfully will get him nowhere.


32 posted on 12/06/2005 10:22:47 AM PST by rod1
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To: NormsRevenge

Shackle him, gag him, drag him into the courtroom by his hair, and make him sit in his own excretia. THAT, SoDamn InSane, is JUSTICE; not terrorism.

Terrorism is feeding people into giant shredders.


33 posted on 12/06/2005 10:24:17 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Giving this maggot any kind of trial is a joke. They should have taken him to the closest tree, tied a noose around his neck and kicked the donkey out from under him.


34 posted on 12/06/2005 10:34:52 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: weegee

he gives tighty whities a bad name....


35 posted on 12/06/2005 10:36:15 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I guess he doesn't want to play anymore."

"OK, Vanna what has our guest won?"

"Well Pat he gets to be used by the John Deere 350 woodchipper that was featured in the movie "Fargo".

36 posted on 12/06/2005 10:38:42 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: NormsRevenge

Sodamned Insane should be executed immediately! He has forfeited his defense.


37 posted on 12/06/2005 10:39:05 AM PST by TexasRepublic (BALLISTIC CATHARSIS: perforating uncooperative objects with chunks of lead)
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To: FreedomPoster
Ramsey Clark at work? It's his MO, for sure. Turn the thing into more of a circus than it already is.

Since Ramsey Clark is working on the defense, and not sanctioned by the U.S. government to be in Iraq; Does Ramsey Clark even have a visa/green card/permission by the Iraqi government to legally work as a lawyer for Saddam's defense?

38 posted on 12/06/2005 10:43:54 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: NormsRevenge
Saddam Vows No Return to 'Unjust' Court Poor Saddam seems to be having trouble internalizing the "deposed" concept.
39 posted on 12/06/2005 11:16:50 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Look at this image. I can clearly see that it could have have meant "you're dead" when he was ruler, dictator, whatever.

Now -- thanks to what we've done -- all I see is a psycho who is in line for justice-- American/Iraq style..


40 posted on 12/06/2005 11:18:53 AM PST by FatherFig1o155 (A conservative in NJ, and proud of it. The conservative part, that is.)
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