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To: elfman2
What a mixture of baloney and smear techniques.

As I pointed out to you--so busy quoting Leftists on the Net, rather than anyone who knows the people involved--you would not be worth answering, even if there was anyone but you and I, still interested in your thread.

But stop lying about Col. Gayre. You are insulting the British under-cover intelligence Officer, who brought back the news of the Soviet/Nazi pact which led to the War. He was well enough thought of in Britain at the time, that he served as the British representative on the committee which established the postwar educational systems in Italy and Germany, after serving as an artillery officer in the War.

His work on ethnology was not his only academic field. He was an expert on Heraldry, and as such--although himself a Protestant--was the English language advisor to the Vatican on matters of Heraldry. (He had been instrumental in blocking a Communist attempt to seize Church lands, at the end of the War, before teaching in India--a land rich in ethnological concepts--for some years.) The contributors to the Mankind Quarterly included some very distinguished scientists.

If you want to argue anthropology, and others are interested, we can certainly do so. But do not smear people who disagree with you. Any suggestion that Gayre--a Baron of Scotland--was somehow sympathetic to the Nazis, is contemptible, in the extreme. The Nazis were Socialists. They were not what you think they were.

As for myself. I do not maintain a "blog." My website is strongly anti-every form of Socialism, especially Communists, Nazis and others who seek to impose New World Orders on the wonderfully diverse peoples of the earth. I do not promote environmentalism as a determinant of human success or failure, and have never suggested egalitarianism was a goal; so can the garbage. Again, it is you who are using the tactics of half-truths and innuendo (the stuff of the Big Lie) to demonize a Faith and that smacks of Hitler and the Nazis. Your citation of Google as an authority on either history or science is about par for the course. (You cannot really think that that is an argument!)

171 posted on 12/20/2005 2:09:28 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
"You cannot really think that that is an argument!"

A productive debate depends on resolving conflicting evidence. Ours failed when you refused to cite a source for what you said was “history” and then refused to discuss the timeline that conflicts with it. You then refused to process how racist neo-Nazi web sites conflict with your claim that Nazis are not racists.

Google’s an index to sources, not a source. I showed you one link to 50 google references to racist remarks by your friend rather than post 50 links because you refuse to process anything that disagrees with your claims anyway. Life is short. Whatever honorable military or intelligence record he has in addition to that is no more relevant to the process of resolving our disagreement than are his piano skills.

Reason is the process of non-contradictory identification. There are no contradictions in nature. When you think you find one, examine your premises. Anything less leads to behaving like a kook by posting pontifications from your blog that you refuse to defend.

172 posted on 12/21/2005 4:12:02 PM PST by elfman2
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