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"We know the area flourished. We know the Mongols slaughtered those they overran there. Again, the religion is the same. It is hardly speculative--certainly not until you come up with something other than a constant--to explain the fall off, for me to point out the obvious. "

We know the area,
1) flourished prior to the introduction of Islam and then
2) was conquered by Muslims and then
3) stagnated and began to decay and was then
4) conquered by Mongols and then
5) continued to stagnate and decay.

I’ve shown you evidence and links to that effect, but you refuse to process the information. You just insist on your lingering genetic inferiority explanation for some reason even though it conflicts with their timeline.

Your assertions, based on claimed knowledge of the Near East are absolutely not true! Any serious history will acknowledge the high level of culture in Baghdad, before the Mongol conquest. That was a new flowering, long after the collapse of earlier civilizations. You have simply embraced a selective choice of questionable assertions to try to downgrade one of the Abramic religions. That, not racial dogma, was the Nazi way. (The Nazis redefined "race" to mean acceptance of their Socialist dogma. You do not bother to look at that fact, you just parrot the line of other Socialists, that theirs was a race driven dogma. We deal with that bit of propaganda, left over from the 1930s and 1940s, in dealing with their other lies in The Lies of Socialism.)

The evidence correlating intelligence with heredity is confirmed by multi-discipline studies, over many generations. But it also conforms with observations that are available to anyone. In your denial, you have put yourself in the camp of the doctrinaire Socialists, but that does not make your argument anything but fantasy. There is an absolute absence of any evidence of human equality, whether in mental or physical traits--an absolute absence. Do you claim any data more accurate than the 87 IQ average citation, I offered for modern Iraq? Just what are you suggesting that it is? Or do you just blindly persist in denigrating their religion, without even considering the actual aptitudes of the people involved?

Incidentally, none of the Faiths that stem from the original Faith of the prophet Abraham (Judaism, Christianity & Islam) postulate that intelligence is the ultimate determinant of moral virtue, etc.. So between us, it is you, not I, who are denigrating the people of the region, when you assail their Faith. So can the childish smear tactics. As I suggested, above, they smack of "projection," not reason. But, again, point to any evidence that the contemporary Iraqi level of academic aptitude, on average, is any higher than the data I cited.

For that matter, point to any evidence that the average IQ in America has not been in a slow decline, since the upper and middle class birthrates fell. The intelligence level of any people, depends on who is having the babies--heredity. The Iraqis can at least blame a genocidal massacre. We are doing it to ourselves.