[The_Reader_David]

Oh, and I'm an Orthodox--we follow St. John Cassian's listing of Eight Grevious Vices. Seven are familiar in the West, where they are called the "Seven Deadly Sins", the eighth is self-esteem. (Anyone who doubts it's a vice should try dealing with a classroom full of ed majors--they take offense at being made to work hard.)

[wagglebee]

I had always assumed that self-esteem (which I have found from bitter experience is often the catalyst for the other vices/sins and is also the most difficult to let go of) was a form of hubris (pride).

[Old Student]

"Anyone who doubts it's a vice should try dealing with a classroom full of ed majors--they take offense at being made to work hard.)"

Where do you teach? As an ed major, I haven't noticed any teachers trying to make us work hard... I will admit to having found a few who try to make us think hard, though, here at the University of Oklahoma. For anyone who is an ed major, that may be even more difficult, I will also admit.