[Old Student]

"Anyone who doubts it's a vice should try dealing with a classroom full of ed majors--they take offense at being made to work hard.)"

Where do you teach? As an ed major, I haven't noticed any teachers trying to make us work hard... I will admit to having found a few who try to make us think hard, though, here at the University of Oklahoma. For anyone who is an ed major, that may be even more difficult, I will also admit.

[The_Reader_David]

I teach at K-State, and intermittently draw the "Math for Elementary Teachers" course. You should have heard the bitter complaints when I gave a 10-15 page term paper with strict rubrics on citations and sources. (It used to be that the term paper comforted the math phobics, but no more.)