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The idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong--Howard Dean
WOAI ^ | 12/5/2005 | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 12/05/2005 3:18:10 PM PST by Dog

SAN ANTONIO) -- Saying the "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.

Dean made his comments in an interview on WOAI Radio in San Antonio.

"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."

Dean says the Democratic position on the war is 'coalescing,' and is likely to include several proposals.

"I think we need a strategic redeployment over a period of two years," Dean said. "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway. We ought to have a redeployment to Afghanistan of 20,000 troops, we don't have enough troops to do the job there and its a place where we are welcome. And we need a force in the Middle East, not in Iraq but in a friendly neighboring country to fight (terrorist leader Musab) Zarkawi, who came to Iraq after this invasion. We've got to get the target off the backs of American troops.

Dean didn't specify which country the US forces would deploy to, but he said he would like to see the entire process completed within two years. He said the Democratic proposal is not a 'withdrawal,' but rather a 'strategic redeployment' of U.S. forces.

"The White House wants us to have a permanent commitment to Iraq. This is an Iraqi problem. President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that was a great thing, but that could have been done in a very different way. But now that we're there we need to figure out how to leave. 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."

Dean also compared the controversy over pre-war intelligence to the Watergate scandal which brought down Richard Nixon's presidency in 1974.

"What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate," Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war. The President said last week that Congress saw the same intelligence that he did in making the decision to go to war, and that is flat out wrong. The President withheld some intelligence from the Senate Intelligence Committee. He withheld the report from the CIA that in fact there was no evidence of weapons of mass destruction (in Iraq), that they did not have a nuclear program. They (the White House) selectively gave intelligence to the United States Senate and the United States Congress and got them to give the go ahead to attack these people."


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This remark is going to really hurt them.
1 posted on 12/05/2005 3:18:11 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog Gone; Mo1; Howlin; Bahbah

Check out what Howie said today.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 3:19:07 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog

Can you say: Desperate L-U-N-A-T-I-C?


3 posted on 12/05/2005 3:19:18 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He's done more for our country than we will ever know. He's the man!)
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To: Old Sarge

Sarge....Howard Dean says you can't win....what say you?


4 posted on 12/05/2005 3:20:06 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog

By "we," does he mean the terrorists?


5 posted on 12/05/2005 3:20:48 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: generalissimoduane

Look what Howard Dean said today.


6 posted on 12/05/2005 3:20:57 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog

The DNC is sinking under Dean.


7 posted on 12/05/2005 3:20:58 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Dog

This POFS has the cohones to say this in San Antonio. I'm surprised he was able to get out of town without being tarred and feathered.


8 posted on 12/05/2005 3:20:59 PM PST by snowman1
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To: Dog
"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam."

Yeah, the situation was called 'George McGovern'.

I just LOVE having Howard 'Duck!" Dean in charge of the Dems. I guess his job is to make the looniest Dems look sane.

9 posted on 12/05/2005 3:21:30 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Dog
Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war.

Howie, put up or resign !
10 posted on 12/05/2005 3:21:32 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: Dog

The glass is less than half full for Howard and his followers.


11 posted on 12/05/2005 3:21:35 PM PST by Crooked Constituent
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To: Dog

"Sarge....Howard Dean says you can't win....what say you?"

String him up upside down like Mussolini.


12 posted on 12/05/2005 3:22:12 PM PST by RAldrich
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To: Dog

I can't even finish reading it


13 posted on 12/05/2005 3:22:27 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Dog

Who will cover it? Most Americans will most likely never hear it. Dean's national surrogates (AKA MSM) will cover his *ss.


14 posted on 12/05/2005 3:22:37 PM PST by tarzantheapeman (Support our troops ... call out the dems for what they are: lying traitors)
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To: nuconvert

Force yourself....:-)


15 posted on 12/05/2005 3:22:52 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
But Kerry says Iraq is NOT Vietnam. One thing you can say for the Dems...no matter what happens some Democrat will be able to say they suggested it...in fact, Kerry gave two opposite views within 2 sentences in his most recent speech.
16 posted on 12/05/2005 3:22:55 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: tarzantheapeman
Who will...

It's posted here....it will be on every blog by the morning...it will hit Fox is a day or so.

17 posted on 12/05/2005 3:23:53 PM PST by Dog
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To: Right Wing Assault

Those who do not remember history.....


18 posted on 12/05/2005 3:24:13 PM PST by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Dog

19 posted on 12/05/2005 3:24:30 PM PST by msnimje (Everyday there is a new example of the Democrats "Culture of Dementia")
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To: Dog

The enemy within.


20 posted on 12/05/2005 3:24:53 PM PST by RTINSC (What, Me Worry?..My company offers French benefits...)
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