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1 posted on 12/05/2005 9:13:41 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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If you don't fight back at the criminals they might not hurt you.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 9:18:34 AM PST by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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Europe is doomed.


3 posted on 12/05/2005 9:19:29 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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Gun control is stupid and great for criminals. Gun control+not arming your police is even dumber and even better for criminals.


4 posted on 12/05/2005 9:21:21 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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Aside from the editorializing at the end, that article was refreshingly objective. Quite a change from the American MSM.


5 posted on 12/05/2005 9:21:53 AM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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Well at least our police here can protect us.


7 posted on 12/05/2005 9:24:08 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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Considering the Islamofacist threat evidenced by 7/11, I would think that Brit police would WANT weapons so that they might kill a terrorist bomber rather than allow them to kill dozens of innocent civilians.

I guess not, they prefer the US Democrat approach: Wait until they kill you, then we'll go arrest them.


8 posted on 12/05/2005 9:27:03 AM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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Obviously they just need MORE stringent gun laws
as the ones they have dont seem to be working and the criminals keep disobeying their current lawze...

The police also must stay disarmed at all times this way
showing the violent criminals the moral highground.

Police need to lead the way and by example...once the criminals see that it is immoral to rape, steal, and kill
and even more immoral to carry firearms..surely they will stop...

A few good people must be sacrificed for the good of the many...right Karl?


10 posted on 12/05/2005 9:28:14 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks and squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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BAd guYs Love Passive-Fists


11 posted on 12/05/2005 9:29:52 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks and squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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A cop without a gun is like a prize bull without a d**k. Useless.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 9:42:24 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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"We're police officers! We're not trained to handle this kind of violence!"


14 posted on 12/05/2005 9:43:50 AM PST by rightwinggoth
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“It seems that in Britain ordinary officers are instructed not to engage with dangerous criminals. But if police officers can’t engage with them, who can?”

Trick question. The answer is to arm the populace, and keep the police unarmed. If a cop is allowed to be better armed than a law-abiding citizen, you have what we like to call a "police state".

15 posted on 12/05/2005 9:45:20 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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Sounds to me as though he learned a great lesson about police work - DON'T DO what the Brits do. Arm yourself and be ready to bring the dirtbags down.

The UK is in real trouble because of their policy against self-defense for victims.

While they shove their elistist noses in the air at the American "cowboy" method of law enforcement, we lose far fewer cops.


17 posted on 12/05/2005 9:49:03 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Bump.


19 posted on 12/05/2005 9:52:02 AM PST by aculeus
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“That was the first time I’d ever let someone wanted for attempted murder simply walk away from me,” said Johnson. “It went against everything I knew. I thought it was my duty to arrest these people. “It seems that in Britain ordinary officers are instructed not to engage with dangerous criminals. But if police officers can’t engage with them, who can?”

With a policy like this, the Brits are consciously cutting the police force's enforcement ability by an order of tremendous magnitude. It's as if the force was a third of it's size just by a policy decision removing 2/3 of it's enforcement ability. Incredible.
20 posted on 12/05/2005 9:55:47 AM PST by headstamp
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"In America, officers spend weeks learning how to cope with armed incidents. But in Britain, Johnson said, he was never shown how to handle or unload a firearm or told how to respond to an armed robbery. “Officers spend more time learning about how to process paperwork than dealing with violent situations. We are trained more like social workers than police officers.

“The training I received in Britain in dealing with armed incidents was virtually non-existent. It consisted of a 30-minute lecture from a firearms officer who said: ‘If you see the business end of a gun or anyone holding a gun . . . turn, run and get away as quickly as possible’.”



That is unbelievable. What is the point of police officers if they are not trained to handle violent situations???? Mind boggling.


21 posted on 12/05/2005 9:56:17 AM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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Johnson accepted that America is more violent than Britain, with a gun culture contributing to a murder rate 17 times higher than here. He recognised, too, that many more police officers are murdered in America — 57 last year compared with just one here — proportionately about 11 times as many

It's not 17 times as high, it's 3 times as high - 4.3/100,000 compared to 1.4/100,000.

22 posted on 12/05/2005 9:57:52 AM PST by heartwood
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How does a criminal manage to get a handgun in a country where handguns are banned?

/sarc

23 posted on 12/05/2005 10:02:28 AM PST by manwiththehands ("Attack (Democrats) until they stop twitching and then attack some more." -J. Peter Mulhern)
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British/European methods are superior.

We should always be striving to emulate them.

/sarcasm off.


25 posted on 12/05/2005 10:08:08 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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Johnson accepted that America is more violent than Britain, with a gun culture contributing to a murder rate 17 times higher than here.

Stay there and enjoy the culture.

26 posted on 12/05/2005 10:12:13 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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Johnson accepted that America is more violent than Britain, with a gun culture contributing to a murder rate 17 times higher than here. - Not so - the Murder rate in the UK 0.0140633 per 1,000 people, the rate is 0.042802 per 1,000 people in the United States. That's a rate of 3 times the UK rate, not 17. Source http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap
29 posted on 12/05/2005 10:18:06 AM PST by Murtyo
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