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US cop quits 'too risky' UK force
Times Online (UK) ^ | 12/4/05 | David Leppard

Posted on 12/05/2005 9:13:40 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

US cop quits 'too risky' UK force

David Leppard

A TEXAN patrol officer who became the first foreigner to join the British police is to resign after three years because he says policing is too dangerous here compared with America.

Ben Johnson, a 6ft 4in former paratrooper nicknamed Slim, has written to his chief constable asking to carry a Glock 17 handgun on his routine beat in Reading.

He said officers are dying unnecessarily because they are less well equipped and trained to protect themselves and the public than their American counterparts.

“The risks required to be taken by unarmed and poorly trained British police are too great for me to continue being a police officer and I will be resigning my commission in a few weeks,” said Johnson.

“I am tired of my colleagues dying when, if they were better trained and equipped, they would have a fighting chance of survival.”

Johnson’s decision was prompted by the murder of PC Sharon Beshenivsky, a mother of three children and two step-children, who was shot during a robbery in Bradford last month. He said her death demonstrated the lack of training and equipment given to British police.

“Beshenivsky did the one thing that officers in America are trained not to do. She walked up to the front entrance of a business during an alarm call. If the incident had happened in America, she would never have done that. She would almost certainly have been alive today.”

Last week Johnson wrote to Sara Thornton, acting chief constable of Thames Valley police, asking to be armed on patrol. “If the chief authorises me to carry a pistol, then I will not be resigning,” he said. “But that is an impossibility. I now have the choice of continuing in a dangerous job, ill-trained and ill-equipped, or leaving the profession I have loved.”

Johnson, 34, served as a paratrooper in the American army before joining the police department in Garland, a Dallas suburb. Like other officers he carried a Glock 22 pistol as a sidearm, supported by a 12-bore shotgun and an AR15 semi-automatic rifle in his patrol car. In America he routinely confronted armed criminals and received 10 commendations for his bravery.

He came to Britain three years ago to live with his fiancée Louise, an IT consultant. He was able to join the Thames Valley force because of a change in regulations that lifted the bar on foreigners.

The couple are now married and Johnson has taken a short career break to look after their 18-month-old daughter Catherine. He said fatherhood had changed his perspective. “It would not be fair [to my family] to continue in a job that is being made more dangerous by a refusal to modernise,” he said.

It was an incident earlier this year that first caused Johnson to consider handing in his warrant card. He was on plainclothes CID duty when he was called to the Royal Berkshire hospital in Reading to interview a victim of domestic violence.

A woman had jumped out of a first-floor window to escape her violent boyfriend, paralysing her from the waist down. The boyfriend, a member of a drug gang, was already wanted by the police for attempted murder, after shooting someone in the back of the head in London.

Johnson and other plainclothes officers who went to the hospital were alerted that the boyfriend had telephoned to say he was coming to see her. They also received a warning that he might be armed.

According to Johnson, he wanted to arrest the man when he arrived, but was ordered by a senior officer not to do so because of the risk. The suspect escaped and it was two days before he was arrested

“That was the first time I’d ever let someone wanted for attempted murder simply walk away from me,” said Johnson. “It went against everything I knew. I thought it was my duty to arrest these people. “It seems that in Britain ordinary officers are instructed not to engage with dangerous criminals. But if police officers can’t engage with them, who can?” He is critical of Charles Clarke, the home secretary, who says he can see “no evidence” that arming officers would reduce the number of police fatalities. “With all respect to the home secretary, he has never answered a 999 call,” said Johnson.

Of Beshenivsky’s murder, he said: “I have been in exactly those situations on patrol in America and I have managed to arrest and disarm offenders without being harmed.”

In America, officers spend weeks learning how to cope with armed incidents. But in Britain, Johnson said, he was never shown how to handle or unload a firearm or told how to respond to an armed robbery. “Officers spend more time learning about how to process paperwork than dealing with violent situations. We are trained more like social workers than police officers.

“The training I received in Britain in dealing with armed incidents was virtually non-existent. It consisted of a 30-minute lecture from a firearms officer who said: ‘If you see the business end of a gun or anyone holding a gun . . . turn, run and get away as quickly as possible’.”

This apparent complacency was reinforced at his swearing-in ceremony when a senior Thames Valley officer told him and colleagues that they would not face the sort of dangerous incidents portrayed on The Bill, the television programme.

“I was surprised that he said we wouldn’t come into harm’s way. This went against everything I had learnt during my career,” said Johnson.

By contrast, the chief officer of Garland police department tells new recruits that it is his task to ensure they are prepared and equipped to face any threat.

Johnson accepted that America is more violent than Britain, with a gun culture contributing to a murder rate 17 times higher than here. He recognised, too, that many more police officers are murdered in America — 57 last year compared with just one here — proportionately about 11 times as many.

But he maintained that British police are far more exposed to danger when confronted with armed offenders than their US counterparts. He said he did not want all police armed — just the “first responders”, officers who, like Beshenivsky, are first on the scene of crimes. He believed this would mean arming about half of Britain’s 140,000 police.

A spokesman for Thames Valley police said: “PC Johnson is currently on a career break. These are his personal views and he did not discuss them with anyone before going to the press.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
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To: kiriath_jearim

"In America, officers spend weeks learning how to cope with armed incidents. But in Britain, Johnson said, he was never shown how to handle or unload a firearm or told how to respond to an armed robbery. “Officers spend more time learning about how to process paperwork than dealing with violent situations. We are trained more like social workers than police officers.

“The training I received in Britain in dealing with armed incidents was virtually non-existent. It consisted of a 30-minute lecture from a firearms officer who said: ‘If you see the business end of a gun or anyone holding a gun . . . turn, run and get away as quickly as possible’.”



That is unbelievable. What is the point of police officers if they are not trained to handle violent situations???? Mind boggling.


21 posted on 12/05/2005 9:56:17 AM PST by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Johnson accepted that America is more violent than Britain, with a gun culture contributing to a murder rate 17 times higher than here. He recognised, too, that many more police officers are murdered in America — 57 last year compared with just one here — proportionately about 11 times as many

It's not 17 times as high, it's 3 times as high - 4.3/100,000 compared to 1.4/100,000.

22 posted on 12/05/2005 9:57:52 AM PST by heartwood
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To: kiriath_jearim
How does a criminal manage to get a handgun in a country where handguns are banned?

/sarc

23 posted on 12/05/2005 10:02:28 AM PST by manwiththehands ("Attack (Democrats) until they stop twitching and then attack some more." -J. Peter Mulhern)
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To: heartwood

What the US has more people than UK? Math won't stop the news from posting numbers that don't match reality.


24 posted on 12/05/2005 10:05:39 AM PST by thebaron512
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To: kiriath_jearim

British/European methods are superior.

We should always be striving to emulate them.

/sarcasm off.


25 posted on 12/05/2005 10:08:08 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Johnson accepted that America is more violent than Britain, with a gun culture contributing to a murder rate 17 times higher than here.

Stay there and enjoy the culture.

26 posted on 12/05/2005 10:12:13 AM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: wvobiwan
Considering the Islamofacist threat evidenced by 7/11, I would think that Brit police would WANT weapons so that they might kill a terrorist bomber rather than allow them to kill dozens of innocent civilians.

Well they did shoot to death that one guy who was running into the subway who turned out to be innocent.

27 posted on 12/05/2005 10:12:54 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: PeterFinn

It is a good policy to not rely upon the whims and charity of others for your own personal survival. Especially when dealing with criminals or government. (I know, I know. That is redundant).


28 posted on 12/05/2005 10:17:37 AM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Johnson accepted that America is more violent than Britain, with a gun culture contributing to a murder rate 17 times higher than here. - Not so - the Murder rate in the UK 0.0140633 per 1,000 people, the rate is 0.042802 per 1,000 people in the United States. That's a rate of 3 times the UK rate, not 17. Source http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap
29 posted on 12/05/2005 10:18:06 AM PST by Murtyo
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To: kiriath_jearim

As the article states,PC Johnson!


30 posted on 12/05/2005 10:24:53 AM PST by xarmydog
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To: kiriath_jearim
We are trained more like social workers than police officers.

Ironically, one of the complaints about police I have often heard or read from liberals in the US is that police should be more like social workers.

31 posted on 12/05/2005 10:42:26 AM PST by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
As the comedian Robin Williams once said on describing the UK police's stopping technique:

"STOP! Or I will be forced to say STOP again!"

32 posted on 12/05/2005 10:53:43 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Murtyo
Not so - the Murder rate in the UK 0.0140633 per 1,000 people, the rate is 0.042802 per 1,000 people in the United States. That's a rate of 3 times the UK rate, not 17. Source http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap

I always have to ask this question when I see gun death stats: do they include suicides? Fewer guns definitely means fewer gun-related suicides (although not necessarily fewer suicides) and they are often reported with the murders.

Also, IIRC, during the whole IRA problem Britain wasn't reporting IRA killings with their gun death statistics.

33 posted on 12/05/2005 11:07:57 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Gordongekko909
Quite a change from the American MSM.

Go back and read the top. This was posted in the UK Times. It probably won't see daylight in the American press.

34 posted on 12/05/2005 12:40:45 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

Hence the comparison to the American MSM.


35 posted on 12/05/2005 12:42:06 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Shalom Israel
No they can't, and it isn't their job either.

You are correct.

According to our courts it is not the responsibility of the police to protect individual citizens besides which it is physically impossible for them to do so.

Their job is to arrest the one who has just, robbed, attacked or killed you and/or yours so they can exercise all those rights they just denied you.

The person who is responsible for your safety in the home, at work, and in the streets of the everyday world is you, period.

The founding fathers knew the most important right was the right to life and it is why they insisted on you having the right to it and the tools necessary to defend it.

36 posted on 12/05/2005 1:04:13 PM PST by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: Shalom Israel

After seeing your sparring with others on the subway search thread I did a search on your comments. I must say I like your kung fu. We need more advocates for freedom around here (and just about everywhere else). There are far to many jackboot lickers on FR.


37 posted on 12/05/2005 4:29:17 PM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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To: kiriath_jearim

What a sissy, wanting a gun to defend himself.


38 posted on 12/05/2005 4:34:55 PM PST by cynicom
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To: kiriath_jearim

I've known 4 people that relocated to the UK in the past 15 years or so. All have since moved back to America.


39 posted on 12/05/2005 4:37:30 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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