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To: joesbucks

You thank me for providing you helpful information, and then in your next two posts continue to trash Focus on the Family? I'm trying to help bring some background to FOTF's prior relationship with the Bank of Omaha, and you intentially miscontrue that to mean that FOTF is all about money and not about principle? You are one jaded man to assume that FOTF is deceptive and hiding its "true" motives.

My providing additional information should indicate to you that FOTF and its employees have a culture of transparency and honesty, not deception.

Once and for all, FOTF severed its relationship with Wells Fargo because of their support of the homosexual agenda. And FOTF chose to go with Bank of Omaha for variety of reasons, including that doing so would better serve our constituents.

You need to consider *your* motives for being so accusatory against a fine organization that's trying to do the right thing.


60 posted on 12/05/2005 9:34:22 AM PST by Theo
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To: Theo
First, overall Focus is a good organization. I hear Dr. Dobson's minute everyday and get a great deal of inspiration from it. I also have read many of his books on child rearing and marriage. While his answers are not a cure all, if more people paid attention to the informatino he provides, many families and marriages would not be in the sad shape they are in. We'd all be a lot better off.

I thanked you for providing the background. And I'm not here to trash Focus, but rather help expose the rest of the story.

However, when I first read this, as noted in my posts, I knew that most banks who could handle the complex tranactions that FOF required would be large banks that market themselves to many constituants of various lifestyle standards. Also, having come from a company that over the past several years has various diversity statements, outreaches and interal policies (such as same sex partner or significant other insurance) and programs, I know that virtually any bank that Focus would have to deal with is likely doing the same.

While there may be degrees, the fact remains that these institutions do support many things that conservatives and Christians in particular have discomfort in supporting. Yet these companies, despite the clout of social conservatives and believers, support those with the uncomfortable agendas both with policies and financial support.

Your information provided a glimpse of what was a driving motivator. It appears that through either being approached by or through self initiative, Focus began looking at best practices with regard to baking. Streamlining and debottlenecking the process and cost savings were a driving factor. Frankly, it appears there were some that have had their lives disrupted by the savings within the Focus organization through the loss of jobs. While no one with any type of heart wants to see job losses, we should all hope and pray that those who have been displaced will find suitable and similar employment in the short term. Unfortunately for those hurt, it is sometimes necessary to reduce the workforce in order to stregthen the business. Hopefully this was the case.

All of the above being said, including my overall agreement with Focus on the Family's various outreaches, it does appear that this decision was driven as much if not more by the dollars and cents rather than the philosophical reasons of denying business to a company that supports those with an agenda we disagree with. The press statement mentions nothing of the work First Omaha can do for Focus that was not being provided by Wells Fargo nor does it address the internal and external cost savings.

In doing some searches on First Omaha, it appears they've offended few if any in the gay community. Believe me, if they were not supportive through whatever initiative or outreach, the gay community would be boycotting and issuing all types of press statements. If nothing else, the gay community is very vocal. My google search revealed no outcries. So they must be at minimal be keeping the gay community happy.

Let's face it, Focus was a little less than honest with the press release.

Bottom line, if I haven't told you the whole truth, have I really told you the truth?

71 posted on 12/05/2005 10:11:14 AM PST by joesbucks
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