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El Baradei: Iran only months away from a bomb
Jerusalem Post ^ | Dec. 5, 2005 | JP

Posted on 12/04/2005 10:52:47 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: northernlightsII
This is pointless if you have no knowledge of the actual capabilities of Israel. The general consensus is that Israel is very nuclear able.

My point was what YOU think we (U.S.) knows or doesn't know about Israel is immaterial! -

As for Israel having nuclear weapons. There is no debate here and hasn't been since the early 80's! - They have nuclear weapons (assuredly with no help from us...right? BS).

Israel not only has the 4th largest AF they also have the second best AF in the World as well.

That won't be enough in the type of conflict Iran, Syria (Hezzbollah, al Qeade and others) plan to bring upon Israel if a full scale war breaks out - Israel cannot sustain a long term fight (and they know it).

Their survival depends on the U.S. military in any protracted fight (period). Their survival up until now has been dependent to a large degree on the U.S. (that is jus reality).

Israel does not have the needed assets to take out all of Iran's threats in any single strike like they did in Iraq (81). The situation in Iran is much more complicated then that.

141 posted on 12/05/2005 2:31:26 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Lizarde
send some special ops in to Iran to cover up the vents on the underground plants?

I was in special ops, and I don't you could cover all the vents in a hit and run mission.
142 posted on 12/05/2005 2:33:37 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
When Iran has a nuke the Isralis are going to feel their back is to the wall. I don't see any other option, but for them to make a first strike...and in the not too distant future.

There is no doubt your comments above are a definite possibility. My point remains bringing us (U.S.) on board (and in all reality ...being involved) in any such strike is a must.

As for the nuclear attack by Israel. That will not happen, I do not see that happening with over 200,000 + U.S. soldiers so close -

Israel is not prepared to handle the response to that type of action without direct U.S. support - They cannot win a battle of attrition and that is how the radical extremists throughout the ME plan to wage war on Israel.

144 posted on 12/05/2005 2:36:28 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Southack

I think it really wasn't that we didn't NEED to test (that's Hubris) but we didn't have time and we didn't have materiel. That's a completely different matter.

I believe that the bombardier armed the daggone thing after they took off, having never done that before either. This was not a walk in the park. Not at all.


145 posted on 12/05/2005 2:38:58 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: rahbert

I have thought that undermining the regime by supporting the disaffected element with smuggled weapons and money was the way to go, but it may be too late now.


146 posted on 12/05/2005 2:49:18 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: kinghorse

evacuee, refugee, the only difference was in Jesse Jackson's irrelevant mind.


147 posted on 12/05/2005 2:51:07 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: ccmay
Why wait until they use nukes? The Iranians are already killing US troops in Iraq. For that matter, they work closely enough with Al Qaida that AQ should be considered an Iranian fifth column.
148 posted on 12/05/2005 3:00:41 PM PST by Ragnar54
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To: steveyp

It was just last week they said they can't wait past March to deal with this problem.


149 posted on 12/05/2005 3:01:19 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

I can't figure Russia out. Sure, they want money like anybody else, but to give nuclear capability to psychos right on your border or near your borders is insanity. Iran would not thnk twice about givin a nuke to Chechnya rebels who would rather blow up Moscow than just a school or threater.


150 posted on 12/05/2005 3:01:47 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: DevSix
With homicide bombers (at levels not seen before)

Homocide Bombers? As a strategic military asset? YHTBK. Think lockdowns and curfews. There won't be ANY homocide bombers if Israel goes to war.

151 posted on 12/05/2005 3:09:56 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
One has to think the Jordanian government isn't liking this one bit, either.

Right. And somebody tried a chemical attack, with the WMD that don't exist, on Amman a couple of years ago. They have to be a bit jumpy.

152 posted on 12/05/2005 3:14:14 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Russia doesn't want our power base to grow in the M.E. that is why they are selling missiles to Syria and Iran.
153 posted on 12/05/2005 3:19:31 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
Hezzbollah has means inside of Israel (of which Israel is aware of this reality) - But further escalation will lead directly into Iraq - That is where the heart of the GWOT is being fought -

An attack on Iran will increase the fight in Iraq 10 fold over night -

Iran won't simply take the fight to Israel only - It will lead to escalation in Iraq - Currently in Iraq less then 10% of those we are fighting come from outside Iraq - That won't be anywhere near the case if an attack on Iran happens (especially any time soon).

154 posted on 12/05/2005 3:23:22 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: jveritas

Sounds like a plan to me! ... ;)


155 posted on 12/05/2005 3:28:57 PM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: GarySpFc; Lizarde

Just turn everything within a mile of the underground vents into a smoking crater.


156 posted on 12/05/2005 3:34:08 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

I hope not.


157 posted on 12/05/2005 4:00:31 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: FairOpinion
So, Iraqi Sunni holdouts. Iran is becoming a nuclear threat to your country. Will you now step up and join the new Iraqi Army? Your country needs you!
158 posted on 12/05/2005 4:04:26 PM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter the remnants to the wind. Avenge JFK.)
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To: FairOpinion
The globally destabilizing nuclearization of Iran is actively being promoted by Putin's Kremlin.

Big rat & little rat

159 posted on 12/05/2005 4:37:39 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: jmc1969
The only question remaining is when, not if, Israel will take the required steps to protect her population from Russia's nuclear arming of Islamic Iran.

Iran Plans to Build a Second Nuclear Plant

Iran a 'few months' from nuke weapon?

Netanyahu hints could consider Iran nuclear strike

160 posted on 12/05/2005 4:46:21 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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