GOP abstinence proposal mixes ignorance, arrogance [Besides, abstinence doesn't work]

Capital Times ^ | 12-4-05 | Joel McNally

[SJackson]

Joel McNally, from

Wild-eye right drags down iconic American Girl dolls

Almost as bad, in attempting to prevent teenage pregnancy, Girls Inc. reveals to girls that abstinence is not the only method of birth control. Since abstinence has been known to fail, it also acknowledges the existence of contraception and abortion.

[SJackson]

For your political list. Joel McNally is so entertaining.

[RobbyS]

Plus historically legislatures have more comptence in the area of human sexual behavior than in the area of animal behavior. This guy should read a definitojn of "police power."

[Sofa King]

"Since abstinence has been known to fail"

I've heard of this happening one time in roughly the last 2000 years.

[Cicero]

There's nothing safe about sex with condoms. It's actually a pretty good way to get STDs or AIDS if they choose the wrong partner.

The people who peddle this kind of junk to naive kids should realize that they are complicit in killing them.

[eleni121]

McNally - Board of Directors of Milwaukee ACLU

[dwntmpo]

"Since abstinence has been known to fail"

Well, there was that one case of a virgin birth..

[highlander_UW]

Exactly!

[SJackson]

"Since abstinence has been known to fail"...I've heard of this happening one time in roughly the last 2000 years.

Whether that pleases the author, I don't know. I'd guess he'd prefer you don't talk about it. His editorial last month, Far right politicians give Christians a bad name

[MEG33]

BARF!

[TheCrusader]

"Legislators actually believe they have a right to declare certain sexual activities - or, in this case, no sexual activity - the official behavior of our state much the same way they designate various species of wildlife the official state bird"

They do have that right. If the parents of the children in that state declare the 'preferred sexual behavior' of their children be to abstain from sex, then their elected Representatives have all the right in the world to suggest such to the state's children. It's just basic morality anyway, fornication and sex outside of marraige are sinful according to the Christian faith.

For the secularists/atheists/anti-religionsists out there, children having sex can be bad for other reasons too. They very often get pregnant, get STDs, get a bad reputation and a poor self image. They can grow up too fast and lose their childhood. Children who refrain from haivng sex, on the other hand, are never harmed by their abstinance. They've everything to gain and nothing to lose.

[eleni121]

My reaction too. Ugly + Liberal = BARF

[MilspecRob]

Shall we do a poll to see what % of poster here were abstinence prior to marriage (even if it was the one you married)

[SJackson]

They do have that right. If the parents of the children in that state declare the 'preferred sexual behavior' of their children be to abstain from sex, then their elected Representatives have all the right in the world to suggest such to the state's children.

They most certainly do. Depending on the circumstances, Wisconsin's age of consent is either 17 or 18.

[SJackson]

Shall we do a poll to see what % of poster here were abstinence prior to marriage (even if it was the one you married)

You could, though that's changing the topic in the same way the author does in equating the teaching of abstinance with a rejection of birth control.

[SteveMcKing]

What they DON'T want is for young women to have happy little babies, period.

Instead, they want them to wait so they fall within two demographics: miserable, single, bitter, professional leftists... or nanny-state dependant failures who never learned any responsibility, let alone family values.

Both groups vote democrat.

[yldstrk]

Bullsheet, abstinence does work...

[durasell]

Legislating morality rarely works.

That said, there's something else in play here. And it has to do with money.

[SJackson]

What they DON'T want is for young women to have happy little babies, period.

I don't think the creation of babies even enters the discussion. If abstinance doesn't work, well, there are ways of avoiding babies after the fact.

[Raycpa]

Shall we do a poll to determine what percentage of parents were intoxicated as teens and therefore justify teen drinking?