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Defense Secretary Joe Lieberman?
NewsMax ^ | 12/4/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 12/04/2005 11:26:02 AM PST by wagglebee

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To: Cicero

Lieberman is NOT honest!! He would Not hold Clinton accountable in the impoochment. Joe's a whiney-ass wuss who gets one thing right once in a while...big whoop.


61 posted on 12/04/2005 3:32:23 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: wagglebee

Oh, well, Andrew Sullivan is on such good terms with this administration and conservatives in general. LOL

These Rummy will be replaced stories seem to be as unending as the reported deaths of zarquawi.

Leiberman is not going to leave to become SOD for two years assuming he's won his re-election for six more years in D.C. What is Sullivan on>

I'm counting on Rummy exiting the day G.W.B. does in 2009 defying his critics.


62 posted on 12/04/2005 3:52:16 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: wagglebee

Rumsfeld would make an excellent President for 2009-16 cycle.


63 posted on 12/04/2005 3:55:52 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

I agree, but it's not going to happen, see what I wrote in #35.


64 posted on 12/04/2005 4:00:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Let Rummy stay out this administration. Hated by the MSM they look for "anything" to slander him. He's a favorite to beat on. SECDEF, hawk, republican who does not pander to the MSM and embarrasses them even on occasion; they love to cut into him at every opportunity they have.

I don't think the US could have had a better SECDEF than we did. He weathered some bad times, had to make serious strategic decisions and adopted a DoD that was on a downward glide slope with no vision and decaying moral.

I’d go as far as to say that moral is “higher” today than in 1999. Soldiers don’t join an Army to sit in garrison. Most of those 20 something guys want to go. They want a CIB, a Combat patch. What soldiers see is when their Army suffers from a “Peace dividend”. When their pay and benefits erode. When housing areas don’t get renovated and needed systems don’t get bought because of a lack of funds. When money is so tight that the allocation for ammunition at ranges has to be adjusted. When soldier should shoot more because they barely meets the minimal standard, but they don’t because there is a lack of funding. When Generals and the Command Sergeant Major’s of the Army get fired for adultery, but the Commander in Chief commits the same, plus perjury but gets off with a slap on his wrist. “He’s your boss.” The DoD suffered from a lack of competent leaders, who were appointed because the toed the Clinton line but were sometimes grossly incompetent (i.e. Brown). When political statements are made and Clinton panders to the “gay” vote and pushes a “Don’t ask don’t tell” policy onto a conservative overwhelmingly male population. Those things hurt moral! But that the MSM didn’t carte to report about. Clinton after all was their boy.

Rummy gets the negative press because he's not liked. But he makes all the right decisions.

Red6


65 posted on 12/04/2005 4:57:02 PM PST by Red6
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To: wagglebee
Trust but Verify.

Personally I don't trust ANY of them.


66 posted on 12/04/2005 4:58:53 PM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: Red6
One of the less-publicized functions of cabinet secretaries and other senior executive branch officials is to deflect blame from the president by taking the flak themselves. In this respect, Rummy is wonderful.

But I think what makes him a brilliant SecDef is the fact that he knows enough to realize the areas where the career military bosses are the ones who know how to run a war. He stays out of their way and lets them do what they have spent decades learning how to do.

67 posted on 12/04/2005 5:02:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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I am one vet who has not forgotten Joe's participation, even if passive, in a calculated effort to toss out military ballots in election 2000.

I feel the same. He was a willing accomplice to Al Gore's attempt to steal the election, period.

68 posted on 12/04/2005 5:03:09 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
I feel the same. He was a willing accomplice to Al Gore's attempt to steal the election, period.

To be fair the dems don't exactly tolerate dissent . I mean you cant blame a cult member for doing what the cult leadership decree's.
69 posted on 12/04/2005 6:39:36 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: wagglebee

Good point.

Never thought of it that way. But he took the pressure off of Bush, that's for sure!

Red6


70 posted on 12/04/2005 6:42:17 PM PST by Red6
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Connecticut ping!

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

71 posted on 12/04/2005 10:58:56 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: wagglebee

Lieberman is not the worst democrat by far but he's no Zell Miller and he's certaingly no Rumsfeld. Lieberman rolled over on his principles when it came to the impeachment vote and is fairly left of center on most things. His support for the war is directly related to his support for Israel, admirable certainly, but he's a one trick pony.


72 posted on 12/05/2005 1:57:41 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: wagglebee
The ONLY area where Lieberman is in agreement with conservatives is defense. He is anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-tax, etc. The view is that he could be SecDef, because it doesn't involve any of these other issues.

Let's see, McCain or Lieberman.

I trust Lieberman much more than McCain to do what he knows is right rather than politically expedient. The evidence is that McCain is much more interested in having his name associated with his new ideas rather than tried and proven acts credited to someone else, aka a legacy. This makes him extremely dangerous.

73 posted on 12/07/2005 7:38:52 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (iLiberals and MSM manipulate the news.)
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To: wagglebee

If he stands down does that mean Connecticut's Republican governor gets to replace him?


74 posted on 12/08/2005 11:49:43 PM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: wagglebee

I dunno, he could be controlled somewhat within the Bush admin rather than voting liberal on the Senate floor.


75 posted on 12/09/2005 9:42:15 AM PST by zendari
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To: wagglebee

Lieberman would make a great Defense Secretary, but I hope he stays in the Senate as a Democrat as his gracious presence annoys all of the right people.


76 posted on 12/10/2005 12:26:32 PM PST by RightDemocrat
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