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In On the Political Act [Hollywood actor Ron Silver bashing Dems and UN in NYT Sunday magazine]
The NY Times Sunday Magazine ^ | Dec. 4, 2005 | DEBORAH SOLOMON

Posted on 12/04/2005 10:56:15 AM PST by summer


Ron Silver

...Indeed, you're a former liberal Democrat who became a Bush convert only recently. What do you have against the Democrats?

The Democratic Party is becoming the tool of an extreme domestic leftist insurgency led by the Michael Moores and the Cindy Sheehans and other neoreactionary, neoisolationist Americans.

...[my] new documentary, "Broken Promises: The United Nations at 60," which portrays the U.N. as the height of incompetence. If you and I put a flag outside our door and we called ourselves a country, we would have a seat at the table.

Is that some sort of cheap shot at third-world countries?

I think that the countries that are democracies need to form a caucus and a coalition to make sure it is not controlled by blocs of authoritarian regimes that are permanently hostile to the United States.

One reason they are hostile is that they feel the Bush administration has marginalized the United Nations.

The United Nations marginalized itself...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: allgrownup; bushdemocrats; ciindy; cindy; dems; lostdems; michaelmoore; ronsilver; un
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To: aligncare

Somehow, we must get to the point where our hearts will not let us dispose, for the sake of convenience, a human child. It is a perversion of a medical procedure. That's the truth.

i agree...but my point was that the core/base of the Republican party is not the abortion issue...and was jumped on by a biggot.


81 posted on 12/04/2005 1:30:55 PM PST by kajingawd (" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
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To: aligncare

I think famous actors begin to believe their own BS.


82 posted on 12/04/2005 1:42:34 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: kajingawd
Yes, the issue that will not fade away.

The answer is not with the dems or pubbies, but in each and every heart, repeatedly reinforced by a culture of life.
83 posted on 12/04/2005 1:53:53 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: aligncare; kajingawd
The Republicans must grapple with this issue, as do the dems. I think their position is politically untenable because Americans are pro life. For the Pubbies it's difficult to be just alittle bit pregnant, to use the salient analogy.
84 posted on 12/04/2005 2:00:32 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You know the money and recognition must warp their souls. Many need an anchor. Humbling oneself is a good counterbalance to ego.


85 posted on 12/04/2005 2:05:27 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: aligncare

Its not the Republicans to wrestle with this issue...it's the american people...i know that most of us are pro-life, but that alone won't make people gravitate to one party. It's time to have a National referendum on the issue, and once and for all put it at rest. Can't have the courts decide on life or death or when to draw the line.


86 posted on 12/04/2005 2:06:37 PM PST by kajingawd (" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
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To: kajingawd

This is a constitutional, as well as moral issue. But, since nearly half of politically engaged Americans are lead by a party that lacks that aspect of humanity, it is left to the GOP to get the issue back to the states where it is closer to the people, who will ultimately vote life.

The u.s. constitution should not take sides on this issue.


87 posted on 12/04/2005 2:21:10 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: aligncare

And they have much to be humble about.


88 posted on 12/04/2005 2:21:56 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: aligncare

Yupper! hes a 170lbs Caucasian Ovcharka dog, and he's very discriminating!


89 posted on 12/04/2005 2:22:25 PM PST by BruceysMom ("Scott Peterson is such an amateur!"-Michael Shiavo)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

"A modest little person, with much to be modest about." - Winston Churchill

"Atlee is a very modest man. And with reason." - Winston Churchill


90 posted on 12/04/2005 2:26:58 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: aligncare; stephenjohnbanker

I love a graceful taunt.


91 posted on 12/04/2005 2:28:52 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: aligncare

Churchill was a master. You have FReepmail.


92 posted on 12/04/2005 2:30:43 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Imagine the political heat Mr. Churchill must have endured, during the darkest days of attacks on the British Island.

I see that tenacity in Mr. Bush. The Jihadist have chosen the wrong people to attack at a moment in time when the right president was in place. Whew!
93 posted on 12/04/2005 2:38:37 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: BruceysMom

170 lbs. Yipper!


94 posted on 12/04/2005 2:46:16 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: aligncare

"Imagine the political heat Mr. Churchill must have endured, "

OH YEAH.

" see that tenacity in Mr. Bush"

Kerry would have brokered a deal with al queda : )


95 posted on 12/04/2005 3:00:43 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jocon307
he knows these Islamofacists would just as soon chop off his head as shake his hand, any body who doubts that, or forgets it, is a fool

You are spot on. Sadly, I'm surrounded by such fools. That a few of them are Jewish (as am I) and don't seem to get the hint about what Islamofacists would really do if they got control, is just beyond me.

96 posted on 12/04/2005 3:19:26 PM PST by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: radiohead

That the entire Jewish population of Greater New York City votes democrat is astounding to me.


97 posted on 12/04/2005 3:28:31 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: aligncare; radiohead

They need to get out more.


98 posted on 12/04/2005 3:31:38 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: summer

Ron Silver is a Liberal I have immense respect for.

Even when we disagree, he makes me think.

If he, Lieberman, Zell Miller, Ed Koch, and Christopher Hitchens controlled the different branches of the Party the Republican Party wouldn't have time to 'find itself' after their misteps this year. They'd be toast.

Instead we have Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, Reid, Daschle, Pelosi, Schumer..etc...is it any wonder the Dems are the minority party? The men/women of principles, courage, and intelligence are the ones the Party has thrown overboard.

Silver on Bush---I see him once a year when I go down to Washington for the Kennedy Center honors. We kibbitz. I don't know if he calls it kibbitzing, but I call it kibbitzing. He is really a likable guy. At one point he said: "You're a good man, Ronnie. It is nice to see you." And I was kidding around, so I said, "Mr. President, only my mother calls me Ronnie." And he looks me in the eye and says, "You're a good man, Ronnie."---

LOL!


99 posted on 12/04/2005 3:34:25 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: StAnDeliver

What a cheery post.

For the record, to my knowledge, Silver has no intention of becoming a Republican.

Why this must become about that, or abortion, I do not know. Should leave it as an example of a Liberal that gets it on the WOT and has the courage to say so in Hollywood.


100 posted on 12/04/2005 3:42:17 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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