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[Tookie Williams] Clemency bid to include claims of errors in trial
Contra Costa Times ^
| 12/4/5
| John Simerman
Posted on 12/04/2005 8:37:33 AM PST by SmithL
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Tookie Delenda Est!
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:37:34 AM PST
by
SmithL
To: SmithL
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:39:24 AM PST
by
mcg2000
(New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
To: SmithL
Who they heard it from: an alleged accomplice granted immunity, a jailhouse informant, an acquaintance with a checkered criminal past...." I hate to tell them this but thugs like Tookie don't exactly hang out with boy scouts, nuns, and certified public accountants. They associate with their thug accomplices, jailhouse cons, and people with checkered pasts.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:42:49 AM PST
by
ElkGroveDan
(California bashers will be called out)
To: SmithL
Why not just let him go in Contra Costa?
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:43:54 AM PST
by
claudiustg
(Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
To: SmithL
[Tookie Williams] Clemency bid to include claims of errors in trial Yeah, right..."errors" that didn't come up during the assloads of appeals that this jagov blew thousands upon thousands of tax dollars on.
For once, just once, I'd really like to see Schwarzenegger actually live up to his Hollywood "Terminator" image.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:46:33 AM PST
by
Prime Choice
(We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
To: SmithL
String the animal up in the town square, and be done with it.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:46:46 AM PST
by
Viking2002
(Allah FUBAR!)
To: ElkGroveDan
Personally, I believe Tookie wouldn't be trying to dissaude kids from joining his Crips gang if he hadn't got caught for the murders he committed.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:47:46 AM PST
by
Prime Choice
(We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
To: SmithL
The author throws up scores of speculations why the testimony of criminals is probably manufactured lies. Most likely, the witnesses believed Williams stories that he is the killer, and they also feared he would just as soon kill them if they crossed him. I believe these criminals.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:48:52 AM PST
by
LoneRangerMassachusetts
(Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
To: mcg2000
There may be another execution or two scheduled before his. If he is 1002 or 1003, that's just fine.
I dare anyone to put a few of these bumper stickers on their car and drive through South Central.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:49:21 AM PST
by
doug from upland
(The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
To: Viking2002
String the animal up in the town square, and be done with it. I think the punishment should fit the crime. I say Tookie should die the same way he killed his victims.
First, tell Tookie he's going to be spared. Then tell him to lie on the cold concrete floor. Then shoot him in the back with a shotgun. Twice. Then stand around and laugh as the bleeds to death.
That is what Tookie did to his victims. That is what he deserves.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:49:56 AM PST
by
Prime Choice
(We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
To: SmithL
Redemption
Ok give him an award for all his "good works" and the chair for the murders.
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:54:31 AM PST
by
svcw
To: doug from upland
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:54:37 AM PST
by
mcg2000
(New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
To: doug from upland
I'd do it for a million dollars plus a car full of U.S. Marines.
To: SmithL
The Left's problem is even the anti-death penalty liberal activist federal Nine Circus found nothing wrong with the way Williams' trial was conducted and the evidence is overlwhelmingly indisputable. He is guilty as sin. And none of his backers are arguing for his innocence. If he were innocent, that would have come up years ago.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
12/04/2005 8:57:10 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Prime Choice
Nah. Too quick. Point blank with a shotgun ain't gonna leave much time for him to realize his ticket got punched. Let him twitch and sway for a minute or two. Let him realize, for those few seconds, the end is nigh. And I want people tossing rotten fruit at him while he does the Rope Dance.
Vengeful S.O.B., ain't I?
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posted on
12/04/2005 9:00:45 AM PST
by
Viking2002
(Allah FUBAR!)
To: SmithL
The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected all of Williams' arguments about the witnesses who testified. It found that Williams' trial attorney "effectively called into question the truthfulness of Oglesby's testimony through cross-examination." The panel found that Williams could not prove that Garrett secured anything more than a hope of leniency when he testified. And it held that, even if Coleman was beaten and coerced, the time between the beating in 1979 and the trial two years later was enough to make his testimony "sufficiently voluntary." If even the 9th Circuit can see through this, it's time to kill him.
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posted on
12/04/2005 9:01:18 AM PST
by
Ukiapah Heep
(Shoes for Industry!)
To: Prime Choice
Its what they call "harmless" errors. Mere technical mistakes happen in every trial and as long as they do not amount to substantiative constitutional infirmities, they don't change the outcome of the trial. And Tookie Williams' lawyers are not claiming his rights were violated, just that there were procedural irregularities. None of which goes to the heart of the case.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
12/04/2005 9:05:09 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Viking2002
Vengeful S.O.B., ain't I? Not even close. May God forgive me for this, but I could easily stretch that animal's execution over such a protracted period that the only clemency he would seek would be the mercy of the grave.
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posted on
12/04/2005 9:09:04 AM PST
by
Prime Choice
(We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
To: SmithL
Williams has had 24 years to loft any evidence that his case was screwed up or that he was innocent. He has made appeal after appeal only to be shot down.
Nine days until justice flows through the veins of the co-founder of the Cipts.
I would that his victims and the victims of his organization had recieved 24 more years of appeals.
Pull the trigger, trip the trap door, flip the switch, start the injection, just terminate this brutal racist butcher.
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posted on
12/04/2005 9:14:20 AM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
To: SmithL
Not really knowing anything about this case, I don't have any opinion on the clemency petition, but that so many FReepers anxiously anticipate dancing on a grave sickens me. The execution of a criminal is not a cause for celebration; it is an occasion for sadness that it ever had to come to that.
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posted on
12/04/2005 9:14:52 AM PST
by
JTN
("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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