why is ACLU hated among most Americans?

[Balding_Eagle]

I looked up your profile AFTER I posted that.

Seesh, I feel kind of stupid, I should have quessed from your name that you lived elsewhere. Great pictures.

[rightwingintelligentsia]

I don't believe there are any (openly avowed) members of the Communist Part serving in Congress, but a few members from the Democrat side (all kidding aside) are communists in all but name. The Communist Party occasionally runs candidates for various offices, including President, but they seldom garner many votes.

[Khashayar]

what?

[Vision]

Are they not a group to protect civil liberties of the American society?

I mean the very values that America's founding fathers dreamed of.

No, you have no idea what this country was about. This letter below is the only mention of a "separation" of church and state. It was in reference to a preacher asking Jefferson if America's new government could become so powerful as to remove religion from public life. It's sad irony that it's ignorantly being used this way today. I also included some other quotes.


To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut. Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem. Th Jefferson Jan. 1. 1802.


"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams, October 11, 1798

“Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwords restored to virtue?... And without virtue, there can be no political liberty….Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?...” - John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson


"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."- Patrick Henry

"The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed."- Patrick Henry

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience are incompatible with freedom."- Patrick Henry

"It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." - Patrick Henry

[Fresh Wind]

I don't think most Americans hate the ACLU. I would argue that the majority of Americans have no idea what the ACLU is, and therefore have no idea how dangerous it is.

[Vision]

There is no seperation of church and state in our Constitution.

One of the the things that the ACLU doesn't get.

Are you joking? They know, that's why they act the way they do

[Sam Cree]

Because they are a bunch of commies dedicated to destroying American traditions of individual liberty and to the insidious destruction through transformation of what they claim to champion, our Constitution.

[Tribune7]

The purpose of the ACLU is to advance atheism not fight for freedom.

The issues for which it most fanatically fights today are unrestricted abortion and homosexual normalcy.

[apackof2]

You have a secular society!

Thanks to the ACLU our society has become more secular. But there are many Christians in this country fighting it AND our hertiage is based on Judeo-Christian values.

Our founding fathers came here for freedom of religion NOT freedom from religion and in addtion our Constitution grants the right NOT to have a "state religion" force upon our citizens

[Patriot from Philly]

The ACLU is attempting to have new pictures of Abu Ghrabib released. A New York federal judge ruled in their favor in September but no pictures. I'm assuming the military has appealed.

The ACLU is disgusting.

[Khashayar]

Well, I may have to rephrase then

Your Government is a secular one!

[apackof2]

Are you joking? They know, that's why they act the way they do

I thougth I didn't need to put /sarcasm off after my post
Guess I was wrong

[Vision]

No, you have no idea what this country was about. This letter below is the only mention of a "separation" of church and state. It was in reference to a preacher asking Jefferson if America's new government could become so powerful as to remove religion from public life. It's sad irony that it's ignorantly being used this way today. I also included some other quotes.

I forgot to say that Jefferson's reply was that the new government was not that strong, that there is a 'separation' of church and state, they can never affect religious culture. It's a naive attitude by todays reality

[Seamoth]

It's not their principles, it's in their extreme selectiveness of how they apply their principles.

[muir_redwoods]

"Are they not a group to protect civil liberties of the American society?"

Show me a case where they've defended the 2nd amendment with the same zeal they've defended the 1st amendment and I will review my position.

[Mr. Keys]

They are the enemy within, and prove it daily. They deserve to be hated and destroyed.

[apackof2]

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

"The future and success of America is not in this Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which this Constitution is founded." James Madison

No truth is more evident to any mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people." Noah Webster

It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible." George Washington

[chesley]

Only kidding? No, I don't really think it's a joke. Of course, it's small 'c' communism, but communism, nonetheless.

[Khashayar]

Is there any book to get to know more about the values your founded fathers stood for?

[Khashayar]

civil liberties are something I dream about every day in my country!