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NIST Physicists Coax Six Atoms Into Quantum 'Cat' State
Science Daily | National Institute of Standards and Technology ^ | 2005-12-03

Posted on 12/03/2005 10:24:55 PM PST by sourcery

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To: js1138

...and, to have radio communications with the civilized world when in the heart of an equatorial jungle, one must physically transport a radio to the remote location.

still beats humping back and forth with handwritten notes, no?

a total suppostition - what if there is a specific kind or range of entanglements which are simply easier or more durable or more useful than the others? what if there is what amounts to a "universal frequency" for entangled communication?

I cannot even begin to have serious thoughts on the matter, lacking anything close to even a beginner's knowledge on it, but it makes for pleasant fantasy.


41 posted on 12/04/2005 9:56:39 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: snarks_when_bored
You're in good company: as (I think) Feynman said, nobody understands quantum mechanics...you just get used to it.

I am much more used to the idea since I began wearing the official Schrödinger's Cat T-shirt. If I spin on axis real fast in front of a mirror, I can read both front and back simultaneously.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/science/6dff/

42 posted on 12/04/2005 9:56:40 AM PST by rootkidslim (... got the Sony rootkit on your Wintel box? You can thank Orrin Hatch!)
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To: longshadow

Purely mathematical and somewhat philosophical. It's an interesting question. Why is i sufficient? (Run your spell&grammar-checker on this.)


43 posted on 12/04/2005 9:57:28 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: King Prout
...and, to have radio communications with the civilized world when in the heart of an equatorial jungle, one must physically transport a radio to the remote location.

Not true. Think about it.

44 posted on 12/04/2005 9:58:00 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: RightWhale

hrmn... no patterns in nature...
can't agree - we observe and describe patterns, but they were extant before we did so.


45 posted on 12/04/2005 9:58:04 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: js1138

well, if you had the right materials, you might be able to construct a radio locally.


46 posted on 12/04/2005 9:59:12 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: RightWhale

why can data NOT be transmitted in this manner?


47 posted on 12/04/2005 10:00:34 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout

There are two others. There are always three cube roots. You might have fun finding them.


48 posted on 12/04/2005 10:00:43 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: King Prout; Doctor Stochastic; snarks_when_bored
I mean, -1^3 = -1...

Yup. If the number of roots is odd, it doesn't generate anything "interesting" that would provide a basis for an orthogonal direction, as "i" does in the case when you take the SqrRoot(-1). "i" is used to define an orthogonal dimension wrt to the real number line, together forming the basis of the Complex Plane.

49 posted on 12/04/2005 10:02:03 AM PST by longshadow
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To: Physicist
I was under the assumption that the likelihood of the "dead" state would be dalculated according to a function which started with a value of 0 at time 0, and apporaches 1 at time infinity. The speed of the approach to one is determined by the characteristics of the actual material. But, this is a probablility and is not the same as actual reality which can only be determined by observation.
50 posted on 12/04/2005 10:02:46 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: longshadow

And if you rotate your phone 90 degees, you can dial an imaginary phone number.


51 posted on 12/04/2005 10:03:57 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
There are always three cube roots

eh?

ok, give me an illustration, so that I (might have some chance to try to) know what you are talking about: What are the other cube roots of, oh, 27, besides 3?

and no cheating... X3 and Y3 and Z3 have the same numeric value ;)

52 posted on 12/04/2005 10:07:41 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout

Something to consider--we have observed patterns in nature since we became conscious several eons ago. The patterns we have observed are always replaced by new patterns, so cannot have been produced by nature. It was only a century ago that the ether was replaced by relativity, and relativity is a mathematical description of an illusion.


53 posted on 12/04/2005 10:07:49 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
And if you rotate your phone 90 degees, you can dial an imaginary phone number.

.... or an orthogonal friend!

54 posted on 12/04/2005 10:08:15 AM PST by longshadow
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To: King Prout
why can data NOT be transmitted in this manner?

If my past experience is any guide, the answer to this will amount to: it just can't.

55 posted on 12/04/2005 10:08:49 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: RightWhale

we observe records of patterns which long predate our rise.
QED: patterns existed prior to our rise and subsequent description of the patterns.


56 posted on 12/04/2005 10:10:26 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: longshadow

Quaternions were quite an innovation, but turned out to be not particularly useful and were abandoned--until a few years ago. They are back, especially in graphics.


57 posted on 12/04/2005 10:10:56 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: RobFromGa

That's the clearest explanation of Schrödinger's cat I have ever read.

Thanks.


58 posted on 12/04/2005 10:12:01 AM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: King Prout

x**3-1=0 is the equation we need to solve. -1 is one solution.

(x**3-1)/(x-1)=x**2+x+1 so we solve this by the quadratic formula.

x=(-1+Sqrt(-3))/2 or (-1-Sqrt(-3))/2

These are the others cube roots. Multiplying by 3 gives the cube roots of (-27).


59 posted on 12/04/2005 10:12:43 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: King Prout

We observe. There is a jump between sensing and perceiving. The jump occurs in our consciousness--the sensory input is primary data; the analysis, however faulty, is an attempt to make a pattern out of the data.


60 posted on 12/04/2005 10:15:44 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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