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More likely...some Dem, as soon as he/she heard they wanted someone to look into Niger talked to Valerie "privately" to see if she thought Joe would go. That made Valerie the controlling move in this caper. No one but Joe was even suggested from within the ranks?? How could that be??

Joe said this WAS NOT a secret mission. Joe said he briefed the US Ambassador to Niger, the State Department and the CIA but I have as yet seen no evidence of all three parties being briefed BY JOE.

The entire thing was a setup? Was Joe there to see if something HAD occurred or to make sure that nothing got out that it HAD occurred. Somehow, I picture Joe sitting in front of a fireplace....throwing paper after paper into the flames.....just like Berger.

There's an extremely bad smell emanating from the CIA with regard to this Niger story. The presence of yellowcake bound for Iraq was supposedly reported by the owner of a warehouse in Coutonou, Benin. But the CIA admitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee that it never talked to this man. I'm curious as to why this isn't being investigated. Instead we have Rockefeller trying to pin the Niger forgeries on the Bush Administration. Which of course is purely political.

I would say the instant that George W. Bush was finally declared the winner of election 2000, there was all manner and sorts of actions taken to protect vested interests.

Now we at least know by Jan. 2002 just a few months after 9/11/01, there was a concern about saving Saddam, Rockefeller told us this himself.

Now if removal of Saddam would impact little old Rockefeller in such a way, the impact upon France, Russia, and Germany was monumental, not to mention those recipients getting a cut under the charitable UN led Oil for rotten Food Program, Joe and his women were neither in the position to design this (for lack of better term) 'cover-up' because the main benefactors exist on a far higher stature than these two.

I do not deny they were players, but there was toooo much risk in what was attempted if they did not have cover. The story is not complete else these players would stop talking about it and shut-up. Now they are either about to be outed and they need to bloody as many as possible or there is 'intel' out there they do not have nailed down yet.

Just my opinion.