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To: Peach
I will be sick if the Bush administration has truly had a hand in ordering documents destroyed. Clinton covered up so many things, and that's something I never thought this president would do. For what purpose?

Sorry, Peach...this is a confirmed fact.

Schaffer was ordered in 2004 to destroy his copies of the info, and James Smith had info that had not been picked up in the original Klintonista sweep that was also ordered destroyed!

This is official testimony, and Zaif has confirmed it.

Between the Able Danger stuff, and W's complete refusal to secure the borders and INSISTS on backing Illegal Infiltrators in America with Shamnesty...I now am beginning to believe the cabal theory between the Klinton Mafia and the Bush Clan may be more than "tin-foil" stuff!

If you look at what is coming out of this Administration, it's almost as if they are running GHWB's re-election campaign (tone deaf to the public opinion as to what is important...arrogance in the Miers garbage...refusal to veto/control spending!)...thus ensuring a DemonRAT win in 2008...for another Klinton!

I HATE that I have to now start suspecting this...but there is WAY too much evidence to hide, and now the web allows for the spread of info outside the control of the 2 Parties...it makes it worse!

I'll be the first on my knees with a "Mea Culpa" if I'm wrong, but between ravingnutter, you, and alamo-girl's info, plus others...and my fights with OBL/Administration shills here...I'm, unfortunately, fairly sure these conclusions are correct.

As to what purpose...keeping power controlled closely in 2 concentrated sources/families...blackmail by FBI files...(BOY I hate to say this part!) New World Order stuff (UNNNNGH!)...there are a LOT of theories, and a lot of links/evidence for some of them!

We are ALL in seriously deep doo-doo!

13 posted on 12/03/2005 7:52:22 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Itzlzha

I don't get it. Much as I love Rumsfeld and Bush, I see no good reason for this information to be covered up. If Clinton was doing this, we'd be going nuts.


14 posted on 12/03/2005 7:59:39 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Itzlzha; Peach; strategofr
You are throwing lemons in with a whole cart of apples. Able Danger has not the connection to "sealing" the borders as you are jumping to. You are making assumptions not in factual evidence.

Between the Able Danger stuff, and W's complete refusal to secure the borders and INSISTS on backing Illegal Infiltrators in America with Shamnesty...I now am beginning to believe the cabal theory between the Klinton Mafia and the Bush Clan may be more than "tin-foil" stuff!

BWAAAHAAA! And you really believe it, too -- I have no doubts of this. DU peddles this same stuff. Don't ya think you could have more credibility over there?

We are ALL in seriously deep doo-doo!

Maybe, but not for the motivations and reasons YOU are citing.

IMHO, your "analysis" is right up there with possibly WHY Able Danger was ignored in the first place -- fear and more fearmongering. The first questions should be: Why the Gorelick Wall?

Second question should be: How could Military Intel datamine more data than the Clinton Admin could? What the heck was Clinton intel ACTUALLY doing with all that paid-for and budgetted time.

Then, can you cite for me EXACTLY, website, etc., giving evidence that the BUSH administration, specifically, ordered Able Danger docs destroyed? No. You can't.

It was DOD. And it was destroyed, why? Strategofr posits/suggests it was a joint conspiracy of the "Clinton/Bush" cabal.

I don't think The Bush Team had anything to do with something which has to date been reported as "destroyed" due cyclical and mandatory, laid out by the book, classified doc destruction routines.

Why don't you ask the DOD what other Docs were destroyed? You think they'd tell you? Would you then say... THEY KNEW. THEY KNEW IN ADVANCE OF 9-11? And just because they won't give you classified data which has been destroyed? Or even a log of what was in it?

30 posted on 12/03/2005 4:09:37 PM PST by Alia
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