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To: Itzlzha; Peach; strategofr
You are throwing lemons in with a whole cart of apples. Able Danger has not the connection to "sealing" the borders as you are jumping to. You are making assumptions not in factual evidence.

Between the Able Danger stuff, and W's complete refusal to secure the borders and INSISTS on backing Illegal Infiltrators in America with Shamnesty...I now am beginning to believe the cabal theory between the Klinton Mafia and the Bush Clan may be more than "tin-foil" stuff!

BWAAAHAAA! And you really believe it, too -- I have no doubts of this. DU peddles this same stuff. Don't ya think you could have more credibility over there?

We are ALL in seriously deep doo-doo!

Maybe, but not for the motivations and reasons YOU are citing.

IMHO, your "analysis" is right up there with possibly WHY Able Danger was ignored in the first place -- fear and more fearmongering. The first questions should be: Why the Gorelick Wall?

Second question should be: How could Military Intel datamine more data than the Clinton Admin could? What the heck was Clinton intel ACTUALLY doing with all that paid-for and budgetted time.

Then, can you cite for me EXACTLY, website, etc., giving evidence that the BUSH administration, specifically, ordered Able Danger docs destroyed? No. You can't.

It was DOD. And it was destroyed, why? Strategofr posits/suggests it was a joint conspiracy of the "Clinton/Bush" cabal.

I don't think The Bush Team had anything to do with something which has to date been reported as "destroyed" due cyclical and mandatory, laid out by the book, classified doc destruction routines.

Why don't you ask the DOD what other Docs were destroyed? You think they'd tell you? Would you then say... THEY KNEW. THEY KNEW IN ADVANCE OF 9-11? And just because they won't give you classified data which has been destroyed? Or even a log of what was in it?

30 posted on 12/03/2005 4:09:37 PM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

"It was DOD. And it was destroyed, why? Strategofr posits/suggests it was a joint conspiracy of the "Clinton/Bush" cabal."

I never said that anywhere I don't believe it. Your statement is a blatant miss reading of what I have said.


31 posted on 12/03/2005 4:17:51 PM PST by strategofr
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To: Alia; Peach; strategofr

Would you like it from Curt Weldon?

Press Conference of Rep Curt Weldon: 9/11 Commission and Operation "Able Danger"

How about some quotes...

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"In the course of that briefing -- and there was a Navy admiral in the room, Admiral Wilson, in charge of DIA, and Richard Schiefren (ph) was in the room. Richard Schiefren (ph) was an attorney at DOD.

In the course of that discussion, Richard Schiefren (ph) discussed Able Danger. I did not know that up until I watched the Heritage Foundation speech that I gave in 2002, where I document the meeting, in the briefing that was done for General Shelton. When I asked Tony Shaffer this morning about that, he said, "Yes, I briefed General Shelton. I was also involved in a Door Hop Galley (ph) brief, where Steve Cambone" -- he was not in the position he's in today. He was a special adviser to Don Rumsfeld.

My concern is if there were 2.5 terabytes of data that were destroyed in the summer of 2000, there had to be material in 2001 if you briefed General Shelton. Where is that material? Where is that briefing?

In addition, there is a question about the possibility of additional data that was in Tony Shaffer's office that was removed, not all of which was turned over to the 9/11 Commission.

As most of you know by now, when Tony Shaffer returned in January of 2004, Tony Shaffer -- or 2003, get my dates right, 2003 -- 2004 -- in January 2004 -- right, because it was in October of 2003 when he first briefed the 9/11 Commission's staff over in Baghram.

In January of 2004 when he was twice rebuffed by the 9/11 Commission for a personal follow-up meeting, he was assigned back to Afghanistan to lead a special classified program.

When he returned in March, he was called in and verbally his security clearance was temporarily lifted. By lifting his security clearance, he could not go back into DIA quarters where all the materials he had about Able Danger were, in fact, stored. He could not get access to memos that, in fact, he will tell you discussed the briefings he provided both to the previous administration and this administration.

For the 9/11 Commission to say that this does not exist is just absolutely outrageous."

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So, either the Bush Administration is allowing the DOD to LIE to Conmgress that the info that Tony Schaffer had was destroyed...or it WAS destroyed! Because this was January 2004! No Klinton orders, unless it was Klintonistas that did it...in which case hanging is required!

Which do you prefer? Because it has to be ONE or the other...because by now, if the Bush Administration was NOT involved in the cover-up, they would have ordered the documents/data released to the Weldon Hearings...or would they?

Your choice...pick one!

33 posted on 12/03/2005 4:35:56 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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