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Princeton Bioethicist says only “Know-Nothing Religious Fundamentalists” will Value Human Life by 20
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| Friday December 2, 2005
| Hilary White
Posted on 12/02/2005 6:21:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Gordongekko909
Cambodia, Rwanda, China during and after the Revolution, these have happened since 1945.
No, the urge for mass murder is alive and well.
This monster just gives it a philosophical justification.
To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
Singer believes humans and animals can have meaningful sexual relationships!
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Well, he also thinks they have equal value.
To: nickcarraway; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
This is evidence that God is only source of ultimate morality.
To paraphrase what Marlowe says, if you think you came from a rock, then there's no reason to have any more morality than a rock.
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posted on
12/03/2005 3:32:45 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: Alexander Rubin
Peter Singer is an evil worthless Nazi. His `utilitarian' views need to be applied to him, directly and personally.
To: xzins
Truly, God is the only possible source for absolute morals. Everyone else suffers from the "observer problem" because we are part of what we observe. Thank you for your post!
To: WKB
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posted on
12/03/2005 5:56:24 AM PST
by
tutstar
(Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
To: xzins
..then there's no reason to have any more morality than a rock.Nor does it seem that there is any reason to struggle more than a rock. These people will self-destruct.
To: GregoryFul
After all, they are killing off their next generation before birth, and proposing to snuff any mistake, injured, handicapped, etc. Since life ultimately injures all, these utilitarians have no reason to not do away with themselves at some time or other.
It is a sterile, hopeless philosophy. "For the greater happiness..." Why should an individual holding such beliefs care whether or not another rock would be happier?
To: Alamo-Girl
You are a blessing, AG.
How can someone with these ideas be called an "ethicist?"
Isn't there a separate word for those who propose evil ethics?
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:38:02 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: GregoryFul
These people will self-destruct.
May the Lord fulfill your prophecy.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:39:26 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: SteveMcKing
"The greatest happiness for the greatest number" is Utilitarian. Mussolini, Stalin, and Mao were Utilitarians.
A quick Wiki search reveals this tidbit: another name for this brand of utilitarianism is "Hedonism;" The greatest pleasure for the greatest number. He is also a founder of the Great Ape Project, which seeks to assert, via UN fiat, "personhood" on all non-human great apes. His writings are also believed to be seminal works for the animal rights movement. An interesting juxtaposition. You're not the only one who didn't know what "utilitarian" meant in philosophical circles! I learn something new everyday. Every day I log onto FR, that is.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:45:16 AM PST
by
xroadie
To: nickcarraway
Bioethicist?
I guess if I just make up a Greco-Roman-derivation-sounding title, I can hang up a shingle and make stupid pronouncements that the other blind men will listen to.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:45:47 AM PST
by
RoadTest
(A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver. - Proverbs 25:11)
To: nickcarraway
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:49:19 AM PST
by
Fintan
(Really, it's only a fever blister.)
To: RoadTest
and make stupid pronouncements that the other blind men will listen to. I'll just get an elephant from the zoo for that.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:52:32 AM PST
by
moog
To: nickcarraway
What an angry thanatophile.
He makes Kevorkian look like Santa Claus.
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posted on
12/03/2005 7:24:34 AM PST
by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
To: xzins
You are a blessing to me, dear brother in Christ!
How can someone with these ideas be called an "ethicist?" Isn't there a separate word for those who propose evil ethics?
Indeed, there was quite a stir when he was selected for the post. But the universities do not see themselves as accountable to the people who fund them. That has to change.
Perhaps the intelligent design debate will bring the issue to a head? After all, the publicly funded education system wants autonomy from the public which funds them. Peter Singer as a "bioethicist" is a case-in-point.
To: randog
What if I declare Mr. Singer to have no utility--can we then send him to the Soylent factory?Commercial Announcer: brought to you by Soylent red and Soylent yellow, high energy vegetable concentrates, and new, delicious, Soylent green. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
Charlton Heston's Detective Thorn: It's people! Soylent Green is made out of people! They're making our food out of people! Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food! You've gotta tell them! You've gotta tell them!
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posted on
12/03/2005 7:49:34 AM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
To: balrog666; Gordongekko909
You said that "Good ideas never go away." and seemed to be about the following post.
"Funny... I thought that this type of thought, the idea that "inferior" human life is totally disposable for the greater good, had its last breath in 1944. But it looks like it's running strong in the American Left."
For the purpose of clarification, and clarity of thought, is your statement to show your affirmation that the above is a good idea and will never go away?
To: nickcarraway
By 2040, it may be that only a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists will defend the view that every human life, from conception to death, is sacrosanct. Hmmm. I seem to recall a passage in 2 Kings about a "remnant." Sounds remarkably similar...
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posted on
12/03/2005 8:09:54 AM PST
by
COBOL2Java
(The Katrina Media never gets anything right, so why should I believe them?)
To: Fintan
From the looks of him, I'd say he'll be having an interesting conversation with his maker in a decade or so...
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posted on
12/03/2005 8:19:08 AM PST
by
COBOL2Java
(The Katrina Media never gets anything right, so why should I believe them?)
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