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Man Sacked After Being Caught Smoking At Home
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-3-2005 | Kate Connolly

Posted on 12/02/2005 5:37:43 PM PST by blam

Man sacked after being caught smoking at home

By Kate Connolly in Berlin
(Filed: 03/12/2005)

A German company has sacked one of its employees for smoking at home after hiring a detective to catch him in the act.

Sandro Beier was dismissed from his £19,000-a-year job with a Berlin printing company after being photographed smoking in his back garden.

The company, Laserline, which runs a rigorous health and fitness programme for its 100 staff, said Mr Beier, 42, had "defrauded" it by lying about his smoking habits.

It claimed that Mr Beier had signed an agreement, renewable every month, in which he stated that he did not smoke. In return he received a monthly bonus of £68.

"Tip-offs from his fellow workers led us to believe Mr Beier was not sticking to the rules, so we sent a detective to follow him to find out the truth," said Babett Deuse, an operations and risk management supervisor at Laserline.

"The rules were he was to tell us if he smoked. He defrauded us of some 1,200 euros [£800] a year which is enough money for a family holiday. If someone steals from their company, it is normal that they are punished." The company introduced its radical no-smoking policy five years ago and abolished smoking areas last year. Two thirds of its staff are in the programme.

Laserline said its no-smoking incentives made economic sense, claiming that every full-time worker who smoked was losing an average of 12 work days a year in cigarette breaks. Smokers have to punch cards to clock their breaks.

Mr Beier's lawyer, Manfred Terhedebrügge, said his client was "knocked back" after six years' service.

He said he suspected that the company had used the smoking rules in order to find a way around Germany's extremely stringent employment dismissal laws which often inhibit employers from taking on new staff.

"It is extraordinary that in modern Germany it is possible for your employer to spy on you at home," Mr Terhedebrügge said.

At an employment tribunal in Berlin this week, which is due to conclude next month, Mr Beier admitted that he had smoked but only "when stressed", amounting to "maybe two or three cigarettes a year".

Mr Terhedebrügge said when he was caught on camera by the detective, his client was "experiencing a particularly stressful situation and hadn't even known what he was doing".

Mrs Deuse said Mr Beier had lied. "We're not normally interested in the private lives of our employees, but while others were sticking to the rules Mr Beier was flouting them. We had no choice but to sack him".


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caught; home; man; pufflist; sacked; smokenazis; smoking; unconscioussmoking
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1 posted on 12/02/2005 5:37:44 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

It's bullspit, no doubt, but hey, he signed up for it. Shouldn't have signed up for it if he wasn't going to do what he said he was gonna do.


2 posted on 12/02/2005 5:38:42 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: blam

The guy was taking money for not smoking.


3 posted on 12/02/2005 5:41:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: blam

This guy's in luck. You make more money off German unemployment than you do by working anyway.


4 posted on 12/02/2005 5:41:27 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: zbigreddogz
*shrugs*

Freedom to contract. This guy has no room to complain.

5 posted on 12/02/2005 5:42:52 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: blam
Verrry interesting...

6 posted on 12/02/2005 5:44:00 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: blam

Dude, its called chew....


7 posted on 12/02/2005 5:44:52 PM PST by 359Henrie
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To: cripplecreek
The guy was taking money for not smoking.

Was he a Jew or merely the 21st century evolution of anti-Jewery - the smoker........

8 posted on 12/02/2005 5:46:16 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (It must suck being an Islamofascist....... they don't get Christmas presents.....)
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To: blam

Henry Ford would have been proud of this company.


9 posted on 12/02/2005 5:46:27 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: blam

He wasn't sacked for smoking, he was sacked for lying about it. Kind of like Bill Clinton & sex...he wasn't impeached for having sex, he was impeached for lying about it.


10 posted on 12/02/2005 5:47:03 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (You know you have bird flu if you have usual flu symptoms + desire to crap on freshly washed cars.)
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To: zbigreddogz
Mrs Deuse said Mr Beier had lied. "We're not normally interested in the private lives of our employees, but while others were sticking to the rules Mr Beier was flouting them.

He just implied that they spy on their other employees while they are off duty too. Otherwise, how would they know they were sticking to the "rules"?

This is hard to believe. If I were him, I'd ask to see the video tape of the others, to substantiate that everyone else was investigated too, to make sure he was not singled out.

11 posted on 12/02/2005 5:47:29 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: blam
At first I thought this that company that fired people that smoked after giving them a chance to quit. He signed up for the program and took money for NOT smoking. No sympathy here.
12 posted on 12/02/2005 5:48:32 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: blam

The man should not have signed the contract if he planned on smoking.

Still, what a man does in the privacy of his home, if it's not a crime, is his own business. Busybody businesses are just as bad as busybody government.


13 posted on 12/02/2005 5:48:54 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: Kirkwood

You vill not smok! Smok und ve vill fire you!



You vont to touch my monkey?



No I am not coming on to you, it's and old SNL skit. Remember? ha ha



14 posted on 12/02/2005 5:50:46 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Jigsaw John

I suspect someone used her nose. Often, you can smell smoke on a person, even if he wasn't wearing those clothes while smoking. If he ever smoked in his car, for example, any clothes he wore in the car would smell of smoke.

I suppose they were within their contractual rights to fire him. Maybe if he were a more desireable employee, they would just have made him pay back the nonsmoker bonus money.


15 posted on 12/02/2005 5:52:08 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: Clintonfatigued
He was photographed while inside his home. But I agree, pretty outrageous. I'd ask to see the investigations on all the other employees while off duty. To make sure they are playing fair and square, like they expect their employees to.
16 posted on 12/02/2005 5:52:20 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: zbigreddogz

I think that's the right observation. Only two thirds of the staff participate. He didn't have to.

If the other staff members ratted him out, I'd suggest he was probably smoking a lot more than three cigarettes a year.


17 posted on 12/02/2005 5:53:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Tax-chick
I suspect someone used her nose.

Doesn't matter. Anyone can hide cig smoke. Hopefully, everyone signed up on the policy was investigated too. Otherwise, he was singled out. Any of the other employees could sneak a smoke outside their home. Should they not be investigated too?

Otherwise how could they make this statement?

Mrs Deuse said Mr Beier had lied. "We're not normally interested in the private lives of our employees, but while others were sticking to the rules Mr Beier was flouting them.

Isn't this crazy?

18 posted on 12/02/2005 5:57:06 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: Clintonfatigued
Correction, he was photographed while *outside* his home.
19 posted on 12/02/2005 5:57:51 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: blam
How does health insurance work in Germany? Is it financed by employers? That to me is the only real justification for discrimination by employers against smokers: they incur higher health costs.

Yet anything that discourages smoking is a good thing: just this week a close relative of mine has been put in hospice -- he's dying of lung cancer, the result of 27 years of smoking.

20 posted on 12/02/2005 5:58:35 PM PST by megatherium (Hecho in China)
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