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IRAQ FANATICS' KILL PILL (Fighters high on meth)
mirror uk ^ | dec 2 | Exclusive By Chris Hughes

Posted on 12/02/2005 9:45:20 AM PST by dennisw

EXCLUSIVE: IRAQ FANATICS' KILL PILL

Iraq drug makes rebel fanatics fearless

A DRUG which makes users feel superhuman is being taken by rebel fanatics before they launch attacks against UK troops in Iraq.

The pill - filled with addictive stimulant methamphetamine - is given to insurgents so they have no fear of taking on heavily-armed Coalition forces.

Now senior British officers fear the courage drug, which is known as a "pinky", is flooding Basra where it could help fuel a second armed uprising.

Last night a senior Army source, who returned from Iraq two months ago, said there was a " big drugs trade" in Basra and feared leaders of different terrorists groups would hand out the pills to their followers.

The insider added: "Members of Muqtadr el-Sadr's fanatical Mehdi Army who've taken it have been known to stand in front of US armoured vehicles and open fire almost oblivious to the tank's guns.

"American officers think that suicide bombers may also be given pinkies to psyche them up before carrying out an attack."

Methamphetamine - one of the chemicals in the courage drug - is related to amphetamine but the effects on the central nervous system are greater.

Users feel a huge surge of energy and confidence 10 to 15 minutes after they have taken a dose.

The precise contents of the pills is classified information.


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To: reagan_fanatic

Your (piss be upon him) comment is disrespectful and incorrect.


The correct honorific is (pigs**t be upon him)


21 posted on 12/02/2005 10:18:39 AM PST by E.Allen
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To: Bahbah

I also have no personal knowledge of the effects of any upper stronger than caffeine. I take Janis Joplin's word for it on the matter. My neighbor would know more about it, but he is now incarcerated, and even before that incident with the rifle, it was impossible to talk to him above the din of the drum kit at midnight in his front yard.


22 posted on 12/02/2005 10:19:15 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: ArmyTeach

That is close but the Assassins were the followers of a particular cult within Islam often considered heretical. The followers of Hassan Ibn Sabbah and the Old Man of the Mountains. Their favorite tactic was to infiltrate the Courts waiting to do their masters' bidding. Often they would wait for years acting the sober, efficient and faithful servant. They did not need hashish to do their deeds. It's use within the sect was more for brainwashing than to allow them to do their deeds.


23 posted on 12/02/2005 10:19:26 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Octar

LOL!!!!! THAT'S GREAT!


24 posted on 12/02/2005 10:20:44 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: dennisw
Members of Muqtadr el-Sadr's fanatical Mehdi Army who've taken it have been known to stand in front of US armoured vehicles and open fire almost oblivious to the tank's guns.

We should send them more of the stuff.

25 posted on 12/02/2005 10:22:02 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: dennisw
Members of Muqtadr el-Sadr's fanatical Mehdi Army who've taken it have been known to stand in front of US armoured vehicles and open fire almost oblivious to the tank's guns.

Good.

I wish every terrorist in Iraq did the exact same thing.

The job would be finished in a few days and every soldier could go home.

26 posted on 12/02/2005 10:22:14 AM PST by wideawake
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Good info. Thanks.


27 posted on 12/02/2005 10:24:45 AM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: Bahbah
I don't know anything about the affects of these drugs, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but might heroine or a morphine based drug cause the taker to want to loll around and enjoy the high rather than head into battle?

Possibly. Morphine and heroin are strong narcotics that depress central nervous system function along with decreasing pain. Many patients I administer morphine to find themselves becoming mentally "sluggish" but not all.

28 posted on 12/02/2005 10:25:17 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Bahbah

Heroin causes users to go on the nod for a while but after that they can do whatever they think they can do. Anthony Burgess was a legal heroin user in Great Britain for decades and he wrote scores of books. William S. Burroughs was a decades long addict using illegal heroin (except when Tunis and Morocco where it was legal) and he wrote about a dozen. His best, Naked Lunch, was written while under the influence and he did not remember having writting it.

Meth and crack do not cause the same drowsiness and sloth but a manic high. Hence you here of them obsessively cleaning and recleaning their houses on occassion.


29 posted on 12/02/2005 10:25:52 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: RightWhale
My neighbor would know more about it, but he is now incarcerated....

LOL. It's a good thing :)

30 posted on 12/02/2005 10:26:44 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: dennisw
one can think of a chemical or two that those pills could be 'spiked' with...

cyanide is one...rat poison is another

31 posted on 12/02/2005 10:28:55 AM PST by NoClones
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To: Bahbah

Methamphetamine and cocaine are stimulants.

A meth users pulse is through the roof. Meth users often don't sleep for days. Paranoia is common. Heroin is a common cure for meth addiction. Then the addic can finally sleep, but that's another story.

Paranoics on meth, that are also armed to the teeth and full of Allah can only be described as deadly mammyjammers and should be approached as truly armed and dangerous and crazy.


32 posted on 12/02/2005 10:29:12 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: ArmyTeach

It is a fascinating chapter in history. The Assassins were so powerful that all the courts of the region feared them above all and could not touch them. They played both sides in the Crusades and only were destroyed by the invasion of the Huns who destroyed Baghdad after destroying the Assassins' mountain fortress headquarters in Altamont in Iran.

These were the first true suicide killers having been given a glimpse of paradise through the use of hashish and the contrivances of Hassan. After passing out from the drug he would have them transported into a garden filled with beautiful women and the finest of foods. This was said to be paradise. After another administration of drug, wine, women they would collapse into sleep and be returned to the mundane world. Then they were told that the Master had the keys to paradise which would admit them only after doing his bidding. Anxious to get back to the hot babes they would do anything he wished.

"Nothing in True, Everything is Permitted" was their motto.


33 posted on 12/02/2005 10:32:08 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"...IS permitted..."


35 posted on 12/02/2005 10:32:44 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
They did not need hashish to do their deeds. It's use within the sect was more for brainwashing than to allow them to do their deeds

You're close...Their drug was betel, a narcotic, and the country was India. It was a Shia/Sunni feud.
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36 posted on 12/02/2005 10:33:43 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: dennisw
Who do these guys think they are, the U.S. Air Force?
37 posted on 12/02/2005 10:34:17 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: dennisw

Yeah, right. They weren't already rotten-toothed and psychotic. Blame it on the drugs.


38 posted on 12/02/2005 10:36:09 AM PST by RichInOC (SHAITAN: HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN!! ALL YOUR SOUL ARE BELONG TO US. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: mugs99

Sorry but the Assassins were out of Persia today's Iran. They were a Shi heresy.


39 posted on 12/02/2005 10:42:57 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: dennisw

One of the reasons that the .38 caliber revolver was considered inadequate for military use around the turn of the 19th/20th Centuries was from the experience of the Moro insurrection in the Phillipines.

Interestingly enough, these cats were apparently Muslim fanatics who routinely juiced up on some form of locally grown Amphetimine before attacking people, and they didn't seem to care much if their victims were military or civilian.

Sound familiar?

US Expeditionary forces (Remember Gen. "Black Jack" Persing?) found that a solid hit from a .30-40 Krag or the later 1903 Springfield bolt-action Battle Rifle would at least slow one of these lullus down appreciably, but in a tight spot it was not unusual for an Officer to unload all 6 rounds of .38 Long Colt from his service revolver into a charging Moro's chest, only to have his head lopped off my the enemy's machette.

Said Moro might later stagger off and drop dead in the bushes, but that did the poor headless Officer little good.

So troops started begging to be re-issued "obsolete" single action Army M-1873 Colt .45s, as they at least had a reputation for "knockdown" power, which the .38 demonstrably lacked.

Kinda reminicient of our troops in Iraq begging for "obsolete" but Battle-proven M-14s, don't you think?

("Jammin' Jenny" has been "battle proven" too - proven to $uk, IMHO)

As a result of these combat experiences, the Ordnance dept. began looking for a modernized delivery system for .45 caliber bullets. In 1911, thanks to the genius of John M. BROWNING, we got one - and the rest is history.

Alas; that history really became Military History a few years back when the "Kinder, gentler" Army decided that "Old Slabsides" the .45 was just too brutal on our modern feminine (or effeminate) heroes, and opted for the snazzy new M-9 Beretta in stead.

Oh; BTW; a 9mm bullet is about .355" in diameter, and weighs about 110 grains depending on type of ammo, and goes about 1200 FPS.

The old .38 Colt soft lead bullet was about .360", weighed about 158 gr., and moseyed along about 850 FPS.

Not a lot of difference, really.

Are the drugged up muzzie fanatics in Iraq any more impressed than the ones in the Phillipenes were 100 years ago, I wonder?

'Cause those buggers sure could soak up a lot of lead back then.


40 posted on 12/02/2005 10:52:37 AM PST by Uncle Jaque
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