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The Liars Of The Anti-War Movement (Melanie Morgan: We Do Question The Left's Patriotism Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 12/02/05 | Melanie Morgan

Posted on 12/02/2005 1:26:16 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Yeah really. If Murtha was around at beginning of the American Revolution, in the midst of Gen. Washington's reverses, he'd urge a speedy surrender to the British. Thank God we didn't have him around then.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

21 posted on 12/02/2005 5:05:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Yes, we certainly do question your patriotism.

Can't question that which does not exist.

22 posted on 12/02/2005 5:06:38 AM PST by kevkrom (403-3)
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To: goldstategop
My standard reply to anyone who has said this line of BS to me:

"Question your patriotism? No. I haven't seen you show any examples of patriotism. When you grow either the guts or balls or brains to show some, then I might question it."

23 posted on 12/02/2005 5:09:50 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: armymarinedad
LOL! As if you think the Left cares about the facts. You can recite to them facts and statistics all day long til you're blue in the face and they won't change their minds. Look, President Bush has tried to reason with them. He's laid out the picture and offered a strategy for victory. They still refuse concede what is obvious to every one else. And in the meantime, they continue to sow doubts about the justice of country's cause and to belittle and demean the sacrifices of our troops. When pressed, they won't take a stand on principle. Does that look like the face of an honorable opponent? You be the judge.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

24 posted on 12/02/2005 5:10:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: N. Theknow
Exactly! I can't have respect for someone who refuses to act in accordance with his beliefs and tries to have it both ways. When it comes to the War, the Democrats are a Janus-faced party.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

25 posted on 12/02/2005 5:11:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: armymarinedad

Countering with facts has been a dismal failure IMO. The left has only become emboldened and ever increasingly frenetic over the past two years. They have been helpful to the enemy.

The conscious manufacturers of the lies have crossed the line to treason and they need to be called on it. Our troops and iraqi civilians are being killed for this nonsense. The time for milquetoasting is over.

The bottomline is they are traitors and liars.


26 posted on 12/02/2005 5:16:42 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: goldstategop
Most of the people I come into contact with are not radical left, just misinformed Americans who love their country. These people when given facts can usually be brought around. I don't waste my time on radical lefties unless there is someone there who needs to hear the truth.
28 posted on 12/02/2005 5:19:48 AM PST by armymarinedad (Never let a peacenik go unchallenged.)
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To: armymarinedad

This thread is'nt really addressing the average leftie who is ignorant of the facts and has been spoon fed the lies. We're talking about the professional manufacturers and the spreaders. The elephant is in the room and it can no longer be ignored.

T-BOMBS away I say!


29 posted on 12/02/2005 5:25:19 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Wristpin

The bottomline is they are traitors and liars

I'm not arguing that fact. I happen to agree. My point is that that is what they want you to talk about. Why do you think as soon as some one begins to engage them in debate they start saying "Don't question my patriotism". That's the argument they want. It is totally off point and irrelevant as to whether this nation is right on going to war in Iraq. We should never play their game. Keep the debate on the subject that really matters. Victory.

30 posted on 12/02/2005 5:31:03 AM PST by armymarinedad (Never let a peacenik go unchallenged.)
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To: armymarinedad

The war undermining industry needs to be stopped. They are getting our people killed. That is more important than civil politics at the moment.


31 posted on 12/02/2005 5:35:58 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Wristpin
I don't think we will be seeing very many members of Congress or the MSM thrown in jail for treason any time soon. I will continue working to keep average Americans supporting the troops and exposing the lies of the Left. We stand a better chance of making them irrelevant than we do fighting the free speech/treason debate and having them charged with treason.
32 posted on 12/02/2005 5:47:34 AM PST by armymarinedad (Never let a peacenik go unchallenged.)
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To: armymarinedad

They need to be stigmatized for what they are. thats all. To date they had no consequence for their irresponsible actions.


33 posted on 12/02/2005 5:54:01 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Wristpin
I agree and if it didn't sidetrack the debate over victory so much I would probably be more on board.
34 posted on 12/02/2005 6:14:12 AM PST by armymarinedad (Never let a peacenik go unchallenged.)
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To: goldstategop

BTTT!


35 posted on 12/02/2005 12:41:41 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: N. Theknow

That is my big question. What evidence is there of their patriotism that we can question?


36 posted on 12/02/2005 2:01:24 PM PST by RWGuy
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To: goldstategop; Trteamer; mollynme; Wristpin
No no NO! You can not question their patriotism! As they constantly point out to us, they are just "Patriotic In Their Own Way".

Patriotism can take many forms. Hoping your enemy wins is simply "another way of being patriotic".

Hoping for huge numbers of our soldiers to die, and for our country to suffer a grievous loss so that one's own political party will gain advantage over the other party is just "being patriotic in their own way".

Loudly jeering and denigrating our troops, except for when they're pretending to be nice to them just long enough to call for them to murder their officers - is just "being patriotic in their own way".

Doing things to encourage the enemy, to aid and abet them to help them with their task of killing our troops. is just "being patriotic in their own way". Can't you guys understand this concept?

OK, that's all for today's lesson. Please come back for next week's lesson, entitled, "Why Day is Night and Black is White and Good is Evil".

37 posted on 12/03/2005 10:07:25 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

The latest craze in FReeper signs is "403 to 3" LOL!


38 posted on 12/03/2005 3:35:42 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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No surprise here – Murtha was merely pulling a dishonest political stunt, and he used the willing accomplices of the old-line media and anti-war crowd to pull it off.

Fact is, 18 months earlier, Murtha stood shoulder-to-shoulder with one of the most shamefully dishonest members of Congress, Democrat Nancy Pelosi, and declared that we should cut and run from Iraq.

And this wasn't the first time Murtha had advocated cut-and-run.

Pay attention here, because you won't see this fact reported in any major newspaper or alphabet soup network: He gave the exact same advice to President Clinton after American troops were attacked and slaughtered by Al Qaida-backed terrorists in Somalia in 1993.

When Clinton followed Murtha's advice, it is reported to have emboldened Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, who have both said the incident showed that Americans lacked the will to fight for what they believed in.

This is the same thing I have been hearing from Military people in all branches. When these kinds of things are said by politicians and the traitorous "peace" advocates, the terrorists are emboldened to kill more of our troops.

These people are evil and must be countered at every turn.

An excellent article by Melanie Morgan.


39 posted on 12/04/2005 11:16:27 PM PST by Syncro
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To: goldstategop

When you hate liberalism as much as I do, you start looking for its achilles heel, the better to fight it. Well, it's not what and where you thought.

Liberalism exists by taking advantage of the government's subversion of the currency. That is, liberalism can suck blood/money out of our government, only because the government is sucking blood/money out of the economy.

When government arranges for fake money to be put in circulation, liberals then divert it to their own political ends, and spend some of it to ensure the process continues.

If we end fiat currency and return to a commodity-based, stable dollar, then liberalism will have insufficient money and wither.

Unfortunately, many conservatives are milking the government for fake fiat dollars, as are liberals. Only when we commit ourselves to end the fiat-money madness, and return to a sound currency, can we again have a constitution-based, honorable, non-inflation-inducing government.

We must do everything possible to return to a balanced budget, and resist the urgings of fake conservatives to continue deficit spending, for the purpose of stimulating the economy. Interest rates should rise, a lot, to the point where the Fed basically is not lending anything to anybody.


40 posted on 12/04/2005 11:34:19 PM PST by Tax Government (Oppose the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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