Posted on 12/01/2005 6:41:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON - A spy-agency analysis released Thursday contends a second attack on U.S. ships in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened, casting further doubt on the leading rationale for escalation of the Vietnam War.
Much as faulty U.S. intelligence preceded the invasion of Iraq, the mishandling of intercepted communications 40 years earlier is blamed in the National Security Agency paper for giving President Johnson carte blanche in the conflict.
The agency put out more than 140 long-secret documents in response to requests from researchers trying to get to the bottom of an episode that unfolded in the South China Sea on Aug. 4, 1964, and has been disputed since.
Among the documents is an article written by one of the agency's historians for its classified publication, Cryptologic Quarterly, declaring that his review of the complete intelligence shows beyond doubt "no attack happened that night."
Claims that North Vietnamese boats attacked two warships that Aug. 4 — just two days after an initial assault on one of those ships — rallied Congress behind Johnson's buildup of the war. The Gulf of Tonkin resolution passed three days later empowered him to take "all necessary steps" in the region and opened the way for large-scale commitment of U.S. forces.
"The parallels between the faulty intelligence on Tonkin Gulf and the manipulated intelligence used to justify the Iraq war make it all the more worthwhile to re-examine the events of August 1964 in light of new evidence," said researcher John Prados.
Prados is a specialist on the Gulf of Tonkin at George Washington University's National Security Archive, which is not affiliated with the National Security Agency, and which pressed for release of the documents through Freedom of Information requests and other means.
The article, by NSA historian Robert J. Hanyok, reviews signals intelligence, or SIGINT, from that time and concludes top administration officials were only given material supporting the claim of an Aug. 4 attack — not the wealth of contradictory intelligence. His study was published in 2001 and does not necessarily reflect the agency's position.
"In truth, Hanoi's navy was engaged in nothing that night but the salvage of two of the boats damaged on 2 August," Hanyok wrote.
He said "the handful of SIGINT reports which suggested that an attack had occurred contained severe analytical errors, unexplained translation changes, and the conjunction of two unrelated messages into one translation. This latter product would become the Johnson administration's main proof of the Aug. 4 attack."
He said he did not find "manufactured evidence and collusion at all levels"; rather, it appeared intelligence-gatherers had made a series of mistakes and their superiors did not set the record straight.
Conflicting and confused reports from the scene have long cast doubt on whether the events unfolded as claimed.
Hanyok's analysis of previously top secret intelligence adds insight on North Vietnam's communications from that time, showing, he said, that the supposed attackers did not even know the location of the destroyers, the USS Maddox and C. Turner Joy, as the two ships patrolled off the North Vietnam coast.
Indeed, a shorter agency study done years earlier and also released Thursday indicated the ships did not know what, if anything, was coming at them as they zigzagged to evade what the crews feared were torpedoes, and as they fired on targets identified by radar.
That study concluded with a wry note, saying the destroyers resumed their patrols after a heavy round of U.S. airstrikes on North Vietnam ports, "and the rest is just painful history."
A detailed chronology assembled days after the episode for the Joint Chiefs of Staff by J.J. Merrick, commander of Destroyer Division 192, reflected the uncertainty of that night.
It said that sonar in many cases picked up sounds that were believed to be torpedoes but turned out to be "self noise" — the beating of the ships' own propellers, or noise from patrol boats or supporting planes that were strafing the dark sea in cloudy skies, unable to see any prey.
In another instance, however, the report contended a "torpedo wake was seen by four people."
The Maddox had come under fire from North Vietnamese patrol boats Aug. 2, taking only superficial damage.
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On the Net:
National Security Agency documents: http://www.nsa.gov/vietnam/index.cfm
National Security Archive: http://www.gwu.edu/nsarchiv/
Much as faulty U.S. intelligence preceded the invasion of Iraq, the mishandling of intercepted communications 40 years earlier is blamed in the National Security Agency paper for giving President Johnson carte blanche in the conflict.
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Nice try, Cal.
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LBJ lied
1000s died
This is kind of thing is so cliche. Can't they come up with anything more creative any more? It sounds like something you'd hear from your typical first year leftist Poli-Sci professor.
> "The parallels between the faulty intelligence on Tonkin
> Gulf and the manipulated intelligence used to justify the
> Iraq war make it all the more worthwhile to re-examine
> the events of August 1964 in light of new evidence,"
> said researcher John Prados.
Yup, just another impartial investigator looking for
something else, who stumbled onto heretofore unknown
(well, to him anyway) data supporting his novel (well,
shared by all his marxist prof buddies) hypothesis
that the Iraq Theatre of the Global War on Terror is
just Vietnam all over again.
I wonder how much these guys helped out during the Bay of Pigs invasion?
I don't see what the fuss is. Today, LBJ would declare the need for a pre-emptive strike based on danger to South Viet Nam and attack. Post 9/11 America is not your father's USA.
Was that written by Tass, Pravda, Isvestia, the KGB, Aljazeera, or the DNC?
AP .. Amalgamated Propaganda
The Iraq-is-Vietnam folks are pulling out all the stops. Color me unimpressed - this is old news. I might also point out that although the second attack was debunked the first one was perfectly real. The only real parallel between Vietnam and Iraq is that the same tired group of self-justifying posers are willing to lie about it.
Bush's fault. No WAIT! It was JOHNSON'S fault!
Wasn't Lyndon Johnson having a little scandal problem involving a guy named Billy Sol Estes about the same time as the G.O.T incident?
STOP THE PRESSES!
can't blame johnson when Kennedy started that war 3 years earlier.
. . .but which is affiliated with pro-Castro individuals and groups, such as Peter Kornbluh, who arranged John Kerry's trip to Nicaragua in 1984.
For your reading pleasure!
My ship along with about 20 other Naval vessels was in Yokosuka, Japan, on that Sunday. Word came down of the attack. Liberty was cancelled. By Monday morning, all but 5 ships were left in port, including us. We left Tuesday for Subic Bay, PI.
Some time later, the USS MADDOX and the USS C. TURNER JOY arrived in Subic. They tied up alongside for a tender availabiltity period (repair)/R&R. No signs of damage to either ship was noticed by these gawking eyes, but the rumors were floating that they had take small arms hits to the superstructure. Can't prove it by me.
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