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[Vanity] Does this stuff belong in an 8th Grade Science Textbook? You tell me.
Spiff | 21/1/2005 | Spiff

Posted on 12/01/2005 11:27:55 AM PST by Spiff

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To: Spiff

You are a good parent, and you are right to question this nonsense. I don't know what your alternative is, but I can say that if this is science, it's only a matter of time till they push the same sort of philosophies in other subjects.


21 posted on 12/01/2005 11:39:03 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Exalt the Lord our God, and worship at His footstool; He is holy. Ps 99:5)
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To: Spiff

How do charter schools work (is there a board? advisees? trustees?)

Start with the principal and go up from there. Do not try to approach the teacher, it would be like mud wrestling with a pig.

Isn't pushing paganistic belief the same as pushing any religious beliefs?

We have a hate/hate relationship with our public school. They hate to see us coming and we hate to have to go. But we do, my husband makes noise, and trust me, you have to sometimes. We get things done though. More parents should, but most are too lazy or don't care or don't want to embarass their kids or themselves.

Trust me, everyone in our county knows about my husband and his meeting with the principal.

I would not be happy with that cr@p being taught to my child. But be nice and start with the principal. But just don't back down, remember, that is your child and yes, you know best.


22 posted on 12/01/2005 11:39:21 AM PST by eyespysomething (http://members.cox.net/transam57/lights.wmv)
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To: Spiff; RadioAstronomer

Paging someone who has actually taught science.


23 posted on 12/01/2005 11:39:26 AM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: mlc9852

Unfortunately, this is the same track that most kids are getting in the public screwl systems. They ran a piece the other night here in Ohio on the local news showing that a large portion of the children are not being taught the Constitution, the Civil War, etc. because it doesn't "help" on the standardized tests. We, as parents, have to be more involved in what they are being "taught" (=indoctrination). The Academic Bill of Rights is a start but it usually only applies to college education. We need to take our schools back.


24 posted on 12/01/2005 11:40:01 AM PST by unionblue83
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To: Spiff
You can use this as an opportunity to discuss each premise with your child or you can resume home schooling.

Our children are going to be exposed to many differing theories during their lives and it's a good idea to ask them what they think about each issue and then discuss calmly your own family positions.

You cannot prevent your children from hearing and/or seeing opposing viewpoints.

25 posted on 12/01/2005 11:40:15 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Spiff

As the sources indicate, this is a quasi-religious statement of creed, and not in any way an exposition of scientific principle, or of a scientific consensus. The presentation is simplistic and reeks of authoritarianism.

Some of it is frankly gibberish:
"The greater the diversity of a system, the greater its stability."
I guess that's why the surface of the Moon is so stable, its enormous diversity.


26 posted on 12/01/2005 11:40:28 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: Spiff

You write a very reasonable and detailed presentation. I'd send it to the principal in advance of your meeting, and give copies to other parents you think would be responsive as well. That way if the principal doesn't immediately say, "your're right this isn't science" - you've got allies already lined up.

Since the teacher bought the books herself, they probably aren't used in the other public schools, but look into it. You may have to start dealing with the school board also.


27 posted on 12/01/2005 11:40:31 AM PST by heartwood
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To: Physicist

Did you write this book?


28 posted on 12/01/2005 11:41:26 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SMARTY
Is that even legal??? I mean, that parents CANNOT know what their child is being taught?

That's not it. There's not enough to go around. I don't believe that the teacher kept the textbooks in the classroom to keep them away from parents. This morning, I walked into the classroom and politely asked for one of the textbooks and he gave it to me. No problem.

29 posted on 12/01/2005 11:41:41 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
I would buy them better books.

They are being fed crap.

30 posted on 12/01/2005 11:41:51 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Spiff

It seems that you cannot put children in a public school of any kind without having them propagandized, which is what this is. It's hard to weed through the junk to get to any actual science. Did the teacher buy the book because the school would not? Do they know the teacher is teaching from it? I would have a problem with it and I am not surprised that you do.


31 posted on 12/01/2005 11:42:09 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Spiff
Ask the price of this textbook....my guess the school paid >$75 each.

The more left, the higher the price.

32 posted on 12/01/2005 11:42:16 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Spiff

I stopped trusting textbooks when my daughter came home with a
"history" book that contained (in reference to famous African Americans) one short paragraph on George Washington Carver and two full pages devoted to Malcolm X. It also contained a complete rewrite of the Vietnam War. I pulled her from the public school and home taught her, and she graduated a year early with straight A's.


33 posted on 12/01/2005 11:43:30 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: Spiff

> "Someday, my boy, this will all be yours."

What, the curtains?


34 posted on 12/01/2005 11:44:04 AM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: unionblue83

I think a good start would be to watch local school board elections very closely. I admit to not paying much attention in the past, figuring it really didn't matter who was elected. I have since changed my mind.


35 posted on 12/01/2005 11:44:07 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Spiff

not too late to return them to home-schooling. bravo for doing just that!!


36 posted on 12/01/2005 11:44:49 AM PST by Chili Girl
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To: Brilliant
"Matter can neither be created nor destroyed."
Not really true...

Right. Better to say:

E = mc2

37 posted on 12/01/2005 11:45:51 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Brilliant
>>"Matter can neither be created nor destroyed."

>Not really true...

Did they forget that E=mc2?

38 posted on 12/01/2005 11:46:32 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Bob Mc
[ SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNISM ]

Ditto.

"Everyone is entitled to a fair share of the world's resources"

No one is entitled to resources; one is entitled to exist -- whatever one does to better his/her own existence must be driven by self-direction, which then leads to self-sufficiency. Responsibility lies with the individual.

39 posted on 12/01/2005 11:46:33 AM PST by jdm
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To: Spiff
The text is a political indoctrination tract masquarading as a science text. It blurs the line between scientific theories, facts, & laws and political opinions and principles.

Transfer you child to another science class that uses a real science text. Review the text book before she enrolls in the class, even if you have to go to school to see it.

If you have the time and inclination, AFTER getting your child out of this Eco-indoctrination class, complain to the administrators that the course/text is promoting non-scientific ideas in a science class.

40 posted on 12/01/2005 11:48:19 AM PST by longshadow
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