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Crips founder gets private clemency hearing (from Scharzenegger)
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| Nov 28 05
| David Kravetz
Posted on 11/30/2005 2:35:54 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: marty60
On Dec. 8th we will find out who the Girly-man is.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:03:09 PM PST
by
fish hawk
(creatio ex nihilo)
To: churchillbuff
murdering four people in 1979 ... shoddy forensics wrongly connected him to three of the murders. OK, I've made up my mind. Give him a new trial for the three murders, after we execute him for the fourth. Fair enough?
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:04:05 PM PST
by
Michael.SF.
(Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
To: RichRepublican
Because of him, there are probably tens of thousands dead, billions of dollars of societal costs, and hundreds of thousands of ruined lives.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:06:18 PM PST
by
doug from upland
(The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
To: churchillbuff
It's the wrong clemency at the wrong time in the wrong state. Don't do it Arnie. Don't try and win Lib points. They will stab you in the back like they do EVERY SINGLE TIME
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:06:51 PM PST
by
jw777
To: Alia
Arnold should meet with Tookie. Keep the camera on Tookie. A few well-asked questions will have him foaming at the mouth in rage.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:08:47 PM PST
by
AmishDude
(Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
To: churchillbuff
I was listening to my local radio talk show the other night and a caller was telling about the evidence, the witnesses, and the fact that Tookie didn't actually "write" these children's books.>p> Tookie claims he has "redeemed" himself over the years, but my question is this: How does someone redeem themself if they don't admit any guilt in the first place? Big conflict for Tookie....
Also: This caller into the radio show stated that once Tookie was imprisoned he planned an escape with another, or others, and part of the plan was to hijack a prison bus and kill the driver to escape.
When Tookie was arrested he had a big "killing" in the works.
Tookie.......don't let the door hitcha on the way out.
To: joebuck
Thanks, I was not looking for more information. I don't need to know about every murder on death row in CA or other states. And really it matters how the governor of the particular state sees these cases, not me.
I was just saying no matter what the facts, Arnold should make up his mind on the facts. Trying to placate Dims or the MSM never works for GOP office holders.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:19:13 PM PST
by
JLS
To: doug from upland
"Hey, I am pro-choice on this. I'll be glad to let Tookie choose." Tookie's victims received no appeal or clemency hearing. Tookie should only be asked which method he prefers for the sole purpose of using the other method.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:24:20 PM PST
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
To: joebuck
I read the file. The guy is a real devoid. Arnold won't be giving this guy a break unless he's afraid that they will harm Arnold or his family for not letting the trash live.
To: churchillbuff
What's the Vegas line on this? One might be able to make some serious dough on the Tookie vs Schwarzennedy bout.
50
posted on
11/30/2005 3:26:33 PM PST
by
Revolting cat!
("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
To: churchillbuff
What are the current odds that Ahnold grants clemency?
Based on what's goin on in Sacramento the past few days, I think a RINO in power would be a step up from what ever it is that Ahnold claims he is.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:26:58 PM PST
by
birbear
(Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
To: churchillbuff
The governor has a difficult decision to make. Hopefully the rantings of the MSM on the left or Web sites like this one on the right will not sway him. God help him to make a wise choice using all of the information available to him.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:31:22 PM PST
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: isthisnickcool
Could you tell us a little about what is in the file you read please?
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:32:56 PM PST
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: doug from upland
I certainly hope you're right, Doug.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:33:02 PM PST
by
Brad’s Gramma
(A-Lert! A-Lert! Leapfrog serves LOUSY beer!)
To: Wiseghy
the prosecutor has a good web page that goes into detail about Mr. Williams. His behavior (including threatening jurors and a planned prison break that would have included mass murder) is extremely sociopathic.
he is still a gang member.
i don't think he is capable of remorse.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:36:12 PM PST
by
drhogan
To: churchillbuff
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:36:29 PM PST
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
To: drhogan
I take it Tookie is not one of Hogan's Heroes!
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:38:47 PM PST
by
Revolting cat!
("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
To: libertylass
the plan involved killing everybody on the bus. he was going to blow it up with dynamite to cover up who had escaped.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:41:16 PM PST
by
drhogan
To: kublia khan
if you look at the actual evidence, the decision is pretty clear-cut. It only makes logical sense to grant clemency in this case if you think all sociopathic, repeat murderers should get clemency.
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:44:24 PM PST
by
drhogan
To: All
So many folks so quick to jump the gun on this one!
I won't criticize Schwarzenegger until after he makes his decision & after I read his statement for his reasoning (I assume he'll issue one either way).
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posted on
11/30/2005 3:51:13 PM PST
by
EdJay
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