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To: Gondring
Obviously not convincingly.

No amount of discussion will convince some people, so why waste further time trying?

People believe one of two things:

1) Being asked for an ID by a law enforcement/security agent is a gross intrusion on our constitutional rights and has taken us one giant step closer to living in a Police state comparable to Nazi Germany.

or

2) Being asked for an ID is a slight inconvenience, one that is understandable since millions of Islamic radicals have taken a solemn vow that they will kill as many heathens as possible.

298 posted on 12/01/2005 7:53:42 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
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To: Michael.SF.
People believe one of two things:

1) Being asked for an ID by a law enforcement/security agent is a gross intrusion on our constitutional rights and has taken us one giant step closer to living in a Police state comparable to Nazi Germany.

or

2) Being asked for an ID is a slight inconvenience, one that is understandable since millions of Islamic radicals have taken a solemn vow that they will kill as many heathens as possible.


or

3) Being asked for an ID when it has no real security effect is a means for government bureaucrats to give the illusion that the government is providing a security benefit to the people.

or

4) Being asked for ID is a way to maximize the number of government employees, especially within the "turf" of certain bureaucrats.

or

5) Being asked for ID is a way for low-level cretins to feel superior to those who are out there earning the money and generating the wealth from which they are paid.

or

6)Being asked for ID serves to condition a free people to needless government intrusions so that larger intrusion can more readily be added later, paving the way for tyranny.

See? There are more options than your view and your easily defeated straw-man rhetoric.
309 posted on 12/01/2005 9:37:26 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Michael.SF.
2) Being asked for an ID is a slight inconvenience, one that is understandable since millions of Islamic radicals have taken a solemn vow that they will kill as many heathens as possible.

Does an ID have a magic Islamic radical repellent sprayed on it or something I'm not aware of? Your argument is a non-sequitor.

324 posted on 12/01/2005 11:16:15 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Michael.SF.

http://www.papersplease.org/davis/id.html


345 posted on 12/01/2005 3:27:16 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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