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Trashy punks...

No good deed goes unpunished.

1 posted on 11/29/2005 6:01:23 PM PST by Nomorjer Kinov
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why welfare doesn't work, part 120,335,230,496,255.
27 posted on 11/29/2005 6:18:08 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (whatever)
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While the Browns might look like the ultimate ingrates, their response is not unnatural, he said. "Suppose that you were living your life," he said, "and all of a sudden God came down and destroyed your house? You'd probably be pissed." The anger that people feel under such circumstances needs to be vented and often isn't.

And here is the jist, the Lefty pricks telling you that its ok to be an arse and treat those helping you like crap....its God's fault after all...or maybe Bush's.

28 posted on 11/29/2005 6:19:13 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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Great! Let them go back to NO and see what they have to live in. Then when they discover there is noplace, they can go out and get a job and earn enough money to pay rent for less than what they were getting for free.


30 posted on 11/29/2005 6:20:21 PM PST by McGavin999 (Reporters write the truth, Journalists write stories.)
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"Doing good makes the benefactor feel better, not the person being helped, he said. When the person on the receiving end can't repay the kindness and feels compelled to feel appreciative, he or she can become extremely frustrated. Acting out can occur."

A simple sincere 'thank you' would do. The above statement is BS. People who are 'used' to getting something for nothing 'expect' others to give, therefore the attitude. Example, them getting angry because they couldn't 'take' with them the appliances. Of course it never occurred to them the next family in need would need those things. Complete and utter "we're entitled" selfishness.
31 posted on 11/29/2005 6:20:23 PM PST by blogblogginaway (..)
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Animals.
34 posted on 11/29/2005 6:23:16 PM PST by CAWats (People that are easily angered are easily frightened)
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I don't know why they would have a bad taste in their mouth when everything was given to them

Key words right there. When you get everything for free, you appreciate nothing.

35 posted on 11/29/2005 6:23:37 PM PST by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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My sister loaned her house in TN to a family from Katrina. They came in some fashion through her church. Anyway, nothing to this degree, but they were very messy and inconsiderate. Smoking in the house when specifically requested not to. Full ash trays lying around. Junk everywhere.

And something interesting. They came with virtually nothing, but picked up and left without notice (or cleaning up after themselves) and left behind a garage full of stuff. Donations we are assuming.

Altogether, they left a very bad taste in her mouth.


37 posted on 11/29/2005 6:24:36 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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I would never offer anything to these people. I see when I drive thru Detroit what they do to property. I think they should have to repair all damages done to gift living. If they do not fix the damage, they should go to jail for 5 years. This is only the start. Just wait till we get the reports of all the hotels and motels that are occupied at present.

Am I a racist? I'm sure there are some hitting reply before I am even done typing this. But take me out of the equation and ask a simple question.... Now that things are looking up in NO, if this sort of thing were to happen again, would the same people volunteer their hospitality again? Or is that a racist question?

40 posted on 11/29/2005 6:26:04 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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My girlfriend, who is a nurse from New Orleans, commented to me on this situation. She said: "Uh oh these folks around the country have NO idea what they are getting into."

She said: "Pretty soon we'll be getting calls from strangers saying: 'You all come and pick up your people, now. It's time for them to go back to New Orleans.'"


46 posted on 11/29/2005 6:30:34 PM PST by Sleeping Beauty
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Doing good makes the benefactor feel better, not the person being helped, he said. When the person on the receiving end can't repay the kindness and feels compelled to feel appreciative, he or she can become extremely frustrated. Acting out can occur.

Acting out can occur? Weasel words. Rationalization. Typical psycho-babble. If you are raised like a slob in a barn, then you act like it. Nothing particularly complex here.

When I was single and rented a house, I left it *better* than it was when I moved in. Anytime something is loaned to me, I return it in as good or better condition. I raised my kid the same way.

51 posted on 11/29/2005 6:32:53 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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Pigs will always be pigs and that's what these people are, pigs!

I've heard other stories of good people who appreciate the help they have received.


57 posted on 11/29/2005 6:36:29 PM PST by RightWinger
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Social work is hard work with little payoff... It's not always like this, but often enough to burn out anyone who tries it. There truly are some good people out there, who end up briefly needing help, and their success makes you feel pretty good. But then there's this crap.

I'm glad the paper ran the tenants down and asked them about it. "We tried to clean up as best we could" my butt.


58 posted on 11/29/2005 6:36:29 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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I'd take lots of pictures and the sue the ingrates.

Just to prove a point and make me feel better.

The couselor is a total idiot, and you can bet he wouldn't loan HIS house to anyone.

59 posted on 11/29/2005 6:38:18 PM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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Doing good makes the benefactor feel better, not the person being helped, he said

This is a fact. The people on the rceiving end do one of two things. 1. They feel demeaned and are motivated to get on their own feet as soon as possible. These people are generally grateful to those who helped them during their trials. 2. They go into the "you owe it to me" category where it's never ever enough. Whatever they get, they SHOULD have gotten more. You give them food stamps they want a credit card. You give them a school bus, they want a Greyhound. You give them a home and they trash it. These people are never grateful and often leave blaming those who have tried to help them for the conditions in their life. i.e. The man is keeping me down, they give me enough to survive but not to live etc, etc. The statement this shrink made should be heralded to the rooftops and is the exact reason that government social policies, government welfare does nothing for those who are receiving it. It's never been about actually helping people, it's about Liberal (and in some case white) guilt and rather than liberals lowering themselves to actually helping these people, they would rather have a government program to shuffle them out of the way AND so they can feel good about doing something. The truth is all of these people, those who have been raised on or attached to the welfare state will never live a succssful or even fulfilled life because they haven't done anything for themselves. It's time our country took and stand and said no more. You'd be amazed how many people would make a change in their life if they had to choose betwen food and death.

61 posted on 11/29/2005 6:39:04 PM PST by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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The Browns should have dealt with their anger another way. Ingrates!


62 posted on 11/29/2005 6:39:15 PM PST by lilylangtree
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Therein might lie the problem, said psychologist Harald Graning of Confidential Counseling of Westminster. While the Browns might look like the ultimate ingrates, their response is not unnatural, he said. "Suppose that you were living your life," he said, "and all of a sudden God came down and destroyed your house? You'd probably be pissed."

How can a psychologist who uses such language not be believed?

65 posted on 11/29/2005 6:40:15 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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Doing good makes the benefactor feel better, not the person being helped, he said. When the person on the receiving end can't repay the kindness and feels compelled to feel appreciative, he or she can become extremely frustrated. Acting out can occur.

In such a situation, saying "thank you" is payment enough.

66 posted on 11/29/2005 6:41:55 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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"Suppose that you were living your life," he said, "and all of a sudden God came down and destroyed your house? You'd probably be pissed."

so this is all God's fault?


68 posted on 11/29/2005 6:42:28 PM PST by proudmilitarymrs
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Been down this road twice (not from hurricanes.) The house still isn't back to what it was, and the downstairs (where the spare room is) is still half filled with junk that I'm paying to have hauled away.
Between the two families we tried to help, it has cost my family about ten grand (including a destroyed Bronco II) and a whole lotta grief.

Mark Twain was SO right.


73 posted on 11/29/2005 6:45:13 PM PST by Ostlandr (Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer do NOT represent me!)
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There is a reason that some people have nothing. Poverty is less a financial condition than a state of mind.


79 posted on 11/29/2005 6:53:12 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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