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To: Dukes Tears
403-3 US House completly defeated of your Anti American Cut and Run dogma. Sorry but you have ALL READY LOST the arguement in 2002 and 2004. I see you Hate America Always Leftists are going to cling to it again in 2006.

Yet again I will explain Iraq to you Newbie.

Counter Insurgency is a strange bastard style of war. It is not total war but it is also more then the Leftist" Police matter". The other thing most old Cast Iron Conservatives forget is the political aspect. Iraq was doable. We had the political consensus to do it. So since we needed a kill zone we could suck the terrorists into and we needed to get the American people to support the cost, there was no other choice BUT Iraq.

Want to really blow the Leftists minds? Tell them this. Even if Al Gore won in 2000 and 9-11 happened the USA would STILL be doing the same thing now in Iraq. Iraq was doable militarily and politically. There was no other place for the US to go. Iraq is basically the same deal as the invasions of Italy was in 1943.

Here in a nutshell, is the MILTIARY reason for Iraq. The War on Terrorism is different sort of war. In the war on Terrorism, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone. Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The "Holy" soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is hostile to guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).

There are other reasons to do Iraq but that is the MILITARY reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.

Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. I often worry that the American people have neither the maturity, nor the intellect" to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like "No Blood for Oil" or "We support the Troops, bring them home" then to actually THINK. Problem is these people have NO desire to co-exist with us. They see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. They think their "god" will bless them for killing Westerners.

So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest realize we are serious. See in the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming "We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad" and recruit the next round of "holy warriors". Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11 you crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it.

17 posted on 11/29/2005 1:31:58 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Sen John McCain is not only wrong, he is dangerous to your Rights)
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To: MNJohnnie
Applaud! Applaud!
25 posted on 11/29/2005 1:36:59 PM PST by BARLF
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To: MNJohnnie
Could be that the US will have to kill a generation or 2 of the Muslims to get the point across.

There has been a couple generations of Muslims that have been taught to hate the US.

I do agree with your synopsis.
43 posted on 11/29/2005 2:05:00 PM PST by PureTrouble
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To: MNJohnnie

OOOORRAAAAAAA


48 posted on 11/29/2005 2:15:12 PM PST by gopherbaroque
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To: MNJohnnie
Perxactly!!

You are precisely and exactly on target...

Folks need to think of Iraq as a huge shit magnet..
It's attracting all the nearby Islamist turds who desire to kill Americans in their holy jihad -- and to kill them instead..

These freaking Jihadists are much better suited to killing themselves and harmless women, children and the unprepared/unarmed innocents...

By going to Iraq - we have thrown down a challenge they can never deal with..
We are on their turf, destroying them there - rather than allowing them to choose the place, time and manner of engagement...

By being in Iraq -- we have threatened and challenged another Bathist/Islamist trouble making bunch of bastards in Syria and Iran to toe the line or suffer the same consequences.. Syria would drop faster that a lead fart - and they KNOW it.

They prefer bombing trains in Spain -- and getting results.
They prefer bombing trains in England - and getting attention.
They prefer killing school children in Russia -- and broadcasting fear throughout the land..

But -- their alligator mouthes have overloaded their hummingbird asses, when they attempt to take on a professional armed force..

We will kill them as the cockroaches they are.
We NEED to kill enough of the bastards to drive them back into the caves, to huddle about their campfires in the dark and whisper about the time when Americans answered their challenge to Jihad and kicked their freaking asses..

Semper Fi
52 posted on 11/29/2005 2:17:19 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Someone who gets it!!!


58 posted on 11/29/2005 2:32:30 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: MNJohnnie
We have a winner.

Sadly the liberal will not understand what you printed. You missed words like "anti-christ"(they dis-like the Lord),
evil Bush(they don't like women if their men),
when Bush caused 911,
freedom fighters,
weather wars,
collapse of US dollar,
what would castro say,
che,
the President was selected(means he can be elected again),
cindy says,
Bush’s intergalactic war,
brave jihad warriors,
he lied,

Jammer
61 posted on 11/29/2005 3:03:18 PM PST by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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