Posted on 11/29/2005 1:07:41 AM PST by lunarbicep
RIP. His organization and 12 step program has done a lot to save lives and families over the years. I'm 27 and know many peole who would noe be here on this earth today if it weren't for AA.
I suppose it's OK to break the anonymity after a person has died but it's a little risky since many still die drunk. The principle of anonymity is not to protect the alcoholic but to protect AA.
ping
That gives me a chuckle.
No doubt, AA has saved a lot of lives and families.
Dan
Graybeard58 is one of them.
One day at a time since July 7,1981.
I've been to meetings there. Its a great place. Bill W. and Lois are buried near by. If you are ever in the area, it is a great place to stop by.
June 1, 1999.
I often used to go to meetings where I was not known. Usually starting at 8PM. After the meetings, whenever I'd be asked the common question "How long do you have?" my answer would be, "Twenty one hours and change."
Not to malign those who have found strength in AA because each person needs to find what works for them. It does bother me that AA is shopped around as the only cure. Many of us just plain quit after living through the train wreck of a life that could be achieved by using alchohol.
We have a dilemma at our church. AA meets there several nights and many of them smoke. They tend to congregate in the doorways and smoke since they can't smoke in the building. People complain about running the smoke gauntlet but we are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
You can always tell there is an AA meeting because of the smell of coffee in the building. Coffee and cigarettes. They can sure chuck down some caffeine.
I don't believe there is a cure and AA is treatment.
And, many just walked away from it after seeing the wrecks.
Bless the friend(s) who help keep these lamps lit.
Ping
(It does bother me that AA is shopped around as the only cure.)
Anyone in the program of AA will tell you this is not the case. In fact its not "shopped" at all. The fellowship operates on the principal of attraction rather than promotion.
One huge problem of the alcholics is that they fool themselves into thinking that they can quit or cut back or that there is no problem at all. AA believes they know a treatment that can work. They are not sure of any other methods but they have seen a great deal of things that don't work.
AA makes no money of its members. It just exists to try and help. I am sure if somebody finds a way that works faster and easier and longer and surer, AA will adopt it.
And look at all the 30 day dry out places that charge so much and do so little. They use all the doctors and all the medicine. And I have never seen one work.
I know what my moment of silence will be used for in today's meeting.
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