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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Here's one of the obvious holes in Bush's plan.

We have a family of five, the parents of which are here illegaly. Okay, mom and dad get a work permit and begin their six years.

During the six years they invest in a home, their children develop friendships, the family develops ties to friends, the church... At then end of six years these folks are going to be so solidy entrenched here, that it will be impossible to uproot them and demand they leave. That's what our leaders are counting on.

At this point they get another six year permit, and they're essentially U.S. citizens by proxy. At the end of six or twelve years, there's simply no way these folks are going to be forced out.

Okay, this is reality. This is what is going to happen to the illegals here today. That's bad enough IMO, but what's next? The President stated today that he wants more work visas, more green cards that lead to citizenship AND more work permits. Anotherwords, three programs that lead to many more foreign nationals coming here legally, are going to be implemented or expanded.

And when the expirations for those new programs come, it is my perception that none of the people under any of the three of these programs will be asked to leave.

We're on the fast track to half a billion people in this nation, and a sea change of societal termoil that will make what we've experience up to now, seem like child's play.


29 posted on 11/28/2005 8:55:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DoughtyOne

when it is all said and done, historians will look back on this time as the final, lost opportunity to maintain a serious nation state.
By 2050 the United States will be unrecognizable....for some of you older folks it already is..hehe.

I'm sure there will be a USA by the end of this century, but it'll be more like Brazil than Texas.
Masses of uneducated peons, lawlessness, crime, a collapsing infrastructure, a dwindling and beseiged middle class, cultural decay and the few smart ones who planned for the end.

But I'm a hopeless romantic..hehe.


43 posted on 11/28/2005 10:19:29 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: DoughtyOne
We're on the fast track to half a billion people in this nation, and a sea change of societal termoil that will make what we've experience up to now, seem like child's play.

No lie. But you want to know what is a lie? The gov't figures on the number of illegals in this country (they claim at grand total of around 10 million). Most sources report that between 750,000 and 1,000,000 people are caught attempting to enter the U.S. illegally per year, and most estimates are that only around 25% of those who make the attempt are caught. By those figures, between 3-4 million illegals successfully enter per year. ....And the gov't expects us to believe that after decades of massive illegal immigration (with the illegals breeding like rabbits) there are only 10 million total.

I'd guess more like 50 million. ....minimum.

57 posted on 11/28/2005 10:42:07 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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