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Live Thread - Anybody Watching W's Speech On Immigration - Only on Fox (Vanity)
Fox News Channel | 11/28/05 | Self

Posted on 11/28/2005 1:55:47 PM PST by TCats

They say better late than never but......


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush43; cz; davismonthanafb; heslyingagain; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan; term2; w; whatplan
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To: Kerretarded

give it a rest?....many here think if you criticize the Pres they are traitors or trolls etc.....NOT SO...hey, you have arguements in your family I'm sure...does that mean you dont' love them.....of course not....hell, Tancredo has been beating this drum for years....I only mentioned it once on this thread.......would you tell Tancredo to give it a rest also?.....


61 posted on 11/28/2005 2:10:16 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

He'd campaigned on it in 2000. This wasn't a hidden policy.


62 posted on 11/28/2005 2:10:19 PM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: bybybill
There is nothing the President can say or do that will win approval from the Tancredo clan. Just watch

Sure there is, he can say he's simply going to enforce the laws on the books and stop pandering to illegal aliens.

63 posted on 11/28/2005 2:10:48 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Paul C. Jesup
I guess that depends on what your definition of the word "amnesty" is.
64 posted on 11/28/2005 2:10:59 PM PST by Burf (We'll all be drinkin that free Bubble Up and eatin that Rainbow Stew.)
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To: TCats

They should just change their stations names too... "We hate Bush, and will destroy the moral of the troops" and be done with it.


65 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:05 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

True but he says he wants to create a guest worker program. We already HAVE one, its called a VISA. I think this speech was weak rhetoric. I do not often say such things about my president. But on this topic he sucks.

He said nothing about the Mexican government's involvment in smuggling of people. He said nothing about cross border SHOOTING done by the Mexican military.

Hyping the doubling of border gaurds is rhetoric....when you need 30 thousand folks and you double 2 folks to 4 folks I can see why one would claim the double factor rather than the actual increase in response as to problem.

I do not think most would call W's response to illegals reasonable or fair. I support W on most of his positions but I firmly oppose him on this one.


66 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:10 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: SteveMcKing

You work at MacDonald's?


67 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:15 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Travis McGee
Here's what we should do...

Instead of building a fence (that's so offensive), let's build a giant mote, fill it with endangered fish and wildlife, call it a protected wildlife preserve, and then arrest the illegals on Endangered Species Act violations!

-PJ

68 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:20 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Paul, what does creating a worker permit program do? It makes every illegal already here, "LEGAL". They will be able to get a work permit and legitimization.

I've asked this question on the forum before, and haven't gotten an answer to it. Will a government that REFUSES to send people home today, do it in six years when the worker permit expires?

This just punts the ball down the road and makes it possible for millions more foreign nationals to enter the United States via a legal vs an illegal flood of humanity. Each of them will be legal, and not a single one will EVER be asked to leave the U.S.

Bush has just committed to legitimizing a human flood of Mexican and south American immigrants into this nation that will never leave.


69 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: jackv
Great speech! That is the Bush I love!!!

I listened to every word. What did I miss?

70 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:23 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: pbrown

MSNBC had on Hardball and CNN was talking about Cunningham...


71 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:30 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: Spiff
"14 miles of fencing near San Diego blablabla."


72 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:39 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Where were you in 2000 when he campaigned on changing the immigration laws? His direction has always been to make it easier to come to this country.


73 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:43 PM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: SteveMcKing

Sorry, your answer was a good one and humorous....


74 posted on 11/28/2005 2:11:57 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: LK44-40; Kerretarded; TomGuy
LK44 - welcome to FreeRepublic .... you will find a lot of company here!
75 posted on 11/28/2005 2:12:06 PM PST by malia (If only hillary's husband had tended to his job instead of 'counseling' young girls ..... if only..)
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To: LK44-40

me too....now he says he won't sign a bill that has amnesty....didn't he allude to this earlier but not in those words.....hey, some here think I"m beating on the Pres, but this issue has been neglected for far too long..we all have our major issues.....


76 posted on 11/28/2005 2:12:12 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: malia

Take away the welfare benefits and we may be able to make progress.


77 posted on 11/28/2005 2:12:13 PM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: Pylot
Coming to an American neighborhood near you, thanks to a lack of border security and immigration enforcement (4 years after 9/11 and counting...):


78 posted on 11/28/2005 2:13:36 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: pbrown

Moral = Morale


79 posted on 11/28/2005 2:13:53 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: bybybill
He just promised to construct physical barriers to prevent illegals from crossing in the first place. Barriers. New patrol roads, new vehicle barriers, more fencing in urban areas to stop human smuggling corridors. Allocated 70 million dollars for this.

Not bad.

80 posted on 11/28/2005 2:14:15 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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