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It's nice to see that Sir Paul really has a way of putting Chinese atrocities in perspective.

Bloggodocio

1 posted on 11/28/2005 11:40:44 AM PST by bloggodocio
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So the Chinese have to choose between giving up dog and cat fur, or giving up McCartney concerts?

Anybody taking bets on which way they'll go?

2 posted on 11/28/2005 11:42:54 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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What about not performing in China because it's...... well...... CHINA!


3 posted on 11/28/2005 11:43:00 AM PST by jdm
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It's nice to see that Sir Paul really has a way of putting Chinese atrocities in perspective.

My thoughts exactly.

4 posted on 11/28/2005 11:43:03 AM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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Sir Paul seems to have too much time on his hands.


5 posted on 11/28/2005 11:44:19 AM PST by A. Morgan
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Paul is a good man!

Get a better grip.

6 posted on 11/28/2005 11:45:03 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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I really hate to side with PETA on something, but that is just disgusting. I'm not opposed to skinning animals, but let's keep it humane.

I do love how China tries to pawn it off on American and Europe:

"A Chinese official said boycotts were not justified, and blamed US and European consumers for buying the fur. "

Dang! He forgot to blame to Jews too! Oh well, maybe next time...


7 posted on 11/28/2005 11:45:15 AM PST by Zeppelin (Stop Global Warming. Shut a Liberal's Mouth.)
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I was kinda thinking the same thing while I read the article.
susie


8 posted on 11/28/2005 11:46:18 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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What a lighweight schlock artist he is!


9 posted on 11/28/2005 11:46:22 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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11 posted on 11/28/2005 11:47:30 AM PST by Republican Red (We will stay steadfast, we will not falter, we will never murtha)
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Sir Paul wouldnt dream of going to a country that has paratheid. Maybe he should go over and see what happens when apartheid ends and the stealing of white farmers property begins.I am sure he would rather see starvation than apartheid.


12 posted on 11/28/2005 11:47:49 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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I was thinking the same thing. Nice to know that dogs and cats rank higher on his radar than baby girls.


13 posted on 11/28/2005 11:47:55 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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Call me a skeptic, but I didn't know that dog and cat fur was fashionable in the West.
14 posted on 11/28/2005 11:49:11 AM PST by angkor
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he's also active banning landmines. but if more Chinese stepped on landmines, they wouldn't be wearing fur.


15 posted on 11/28/2005 11:50:05 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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Yet he performed in Moscow. Has he not seen all those fur hats the Russian men where? Or the beautiful fur coats worn by the Russian women, in a far greater percentage than they do here in the U.S.

Shut up and sing Paul, shut up and sing.


17 posted on 11/28/2005 11:53:16 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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Gee, Paul, I'll bet THAT'S going to stop them! Why don't you throw in "destroy you nuclear weapons", too. I bet they'll do it.


18 posted on 11/28/2005 11:54:10 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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Another bothersome thing about this story is that dogs and cats are eaten as food in southern China. In fact northern Vietnam was having a big problem with field rats a couple years ago because all the local cats were being stolen and shipped across the border to China.

So are they stripped of fur before going to the supermarket?

Many oddities here.


19 posted on 11/28/2005 11:54:54 AM PST by angkor
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While I agree with the buy nothing from China angle The is the PeTA angle makes me want to support them. I guess I'll just have to boycott China while eating meat. That'll work.
20 posted on 11/28/2005 11:55:31 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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I think it's fascinating that Heather and Paul are scandalized by the treatment of animals in China (which, I agree, is abhorrent) but don't seem to be bothered by the human rights abuses occuring on a daily basis over there!

That's the problem with PETA types. More concern for animals than people. I think there is room for concern for both!


26 posted on 11/28/2005 11:58:45 AM PST by GatorGirl
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Dog and cat fur

Fur from pet animals

In late 1998, the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) proved that at least 2 million dogs and cats were being slaughtered for their fur annually. These animals are mainly being killed in China, but the slaughter of cats and dogs also occurs in other Asian countries. At that time, most of this fur was being exported to North America and Europe. The HSUS were able to show that cat and dog fur products were being sold in several American clothes shops or department stores. Their findings led to great public and political outrage, which ultimately resulted in a legal ban on the trade of dog and cat fur in the United States.
Ban on dog and cat fur in the US

Since November 1999, the sale, production and/or importation of clothing, toys or any other product made from dog or cat fur is a criminal offence in the United States. This legislation is the result of the HSUS's successful campaign. However, the downside is that as a result of the US ban, more dog and cat fur will be exported to Europe. This is yet another good reason to not buy any items made from real fur.

Gruesome fur scandal in Asia and Europe

A shocking report was broadcast on German television at the end of 1998. German reporter Manfred Karremann showed how thousands of dogs and cats in China, Thailand and the Philippines were falling victim to the fur industry every single day. The animals are caught on the streets, or are specially bred for the purpose under the most appalling circumstances. They are slaughtered in a horrific fashion, being beaten or stabbed to death or killed by strangulation. Frequently these animals are also skinned alive. The fur obtained from these animals is then traded across the globe, including Europe.

Where is dog and cat fur sold?

Karremann's report showed several fur traders who admit, without any shame whatsoever, that they export dog and cat fur to several countries of Europe, including the Netherlands. Dog and cat fur has been found in coats, fur-trimmed collars, hats, (cat) toys, and blankets. The animal origins of this fur difficult to identify. This is logical because consumers would probably never buy any of these products if they were aware that they were made out of dog or cat fur. To make it even more impossible to differentiate, the animal origins of this fur are concealed by fake names, such as Gae-wolf, wolf, or Asian and Chinese Wild Dog. The origins of these products are quite clearly of no interest to the fur industry.

Dog and cat fur also on sale in Europe

The HSUS investigation also uncovered evidence of dog and cat fur being used and sold in Europe. European countries export fur products from across the world. Since dog and cat fur is relatively cheap, it is also used to cover small figurines or dolls with hair. Coats made of dog fur are available in Germany. Moreover, in Germany cat fur is also used in blankets that are supposed to have a healing effect on people suffering from rheumatism and other joint problems. For many years, Italy has imported dog fur and skins from China and other Asian countries for the production of lining and insoles for shoes and boots. France has also imported dog fur for the production of coats. These clothing items are mainly sold in the French Alps. The investigators also located some coats and trim made from dog fur in Spain and Great Britain.

DNA tests reveal dog fur on sale in the Netherlands

Dog fur has also been found on sale in the Netherlands. This is the result of DNA tests carried out by the Academic Medical Centre in Amsterdam on behalf of Bont voor Dieren in 2002. Tests on 93 suspect items, produced in the Far East, revealed that 5 products were made from dog fur. It was found in fur pom-poms, which were part of a jumper, decorative cat figurines with fur, a hair accessory and a cat toy. The shops from which these items had been purchased claimed that their suppliers had informed them that they were made from rabbit fur. This research proves that producers do not tell the truth about the fur that they sell. Rabbit fur is often used as a 'cover' for dog and cat fur. Bont voor Dieren believes that the use of fur whether from a dog or a rabbit is completely unacceptable, but consumers have a right to correct information about the origins of the products that they purchase.

Research shows toxicity of dog fur cat figurines

Laboratory research conducted in December 2003 on behalf of Bont voor Dieren has proved that there are high levels of chromium in toys made of dog fur. These cat figurines, which are produced in Asia, give off 3 to 5 times the recommended safe levels of chromium. A cat toy made of fur even gave off 6 times the level. Two of these articles were made from dog fur. The decorative cat figurines are often given to children as toys. Chromium is toxic when ingested orally, this can occur when an item is handled and the mouth is then touched. Direct contact can also lead to contamination, particularly by children.

Bont voor Dieren is taking action

Bont voor Dieren also wants to put an end to this trade in animal cruelty. In a letter to the Chinese, Thai and the Philippine Embassies, we urged them to exert their influence to get these barbaric slaughterhouses shut down and to institute a ban on the killing of dogs and cats for fur. Furthermore, we have also put pressure on the Ministers of Foreign Affairs and Agriculture to realise a national ban on the import and trade in dog and cat fur and leather. Similarly, together with our Fur Free Alliance partners, we have also taken action on a European level by writing to both the Agricultural Commissioner and the Commissioner for Health and Consumer Protection to urge a complete EU ban on the import and trade in cat and dog fur.

Current state of affairs

As a result of pressure exerted by Bont voor Dieren, in 2005 the Minister of Agriculture has expressed willingness to consider a total national import and trade ban on cat and dog fur. First, however, he wishes to conduct his own investigation into the extent of this problem and has thus commissioned a trading standards investigation into suspect fur products from China.

On a European level, Markos Kyprianou, the current EU Commissioner for Health and Consumer Protection has agreed to do everything in his power to institute a complete EU ban on these products of animal cruelty.

29 posted on 11/28/2005 12:03:40 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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In another piece of the harrowing footage, shot this summer by an undercover investigator connected to the People for the Ethical treatment of Animals (Peta) campaign group, cats are seen squirming inside a sack which is then thrown into a vat of steaming water.

They are boiled to death and skinned by a fleecing machine similar to a launderette tumble drier.

This doesn't sound credible. The boiling process would loosen the hair from the pelts as well as weaken the pelts, and no machine like a "tumble dryer" could do a suitable job of skinning a cat unless all you really wanted was cat, not skin.

32 posted on 11/28/2005 12:05:01 PM PST by The Red Zone
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