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1 posted on 11/28/2005 7:29:41 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
Sure does make you feel safe, doesn't it?

Nope...just very, very angry.

2 posted on 11/28/2005 7:34:03 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: conservativecorner

The solutions are simple:

1.Deport all illegals in mass and show Mexico this country is NOT to be abused.
2.The U.S. should not be Mexicanized.
3.Immigration and Invasion are two different things
4.Who cares about the Hispanic vote? And why?
5.Quit talking and just do it!
6.Build a wall across the borders
7.Make "legal" immigration open to "all" not just Mexicans.
8.Ask me to pay a tax to help deport them all and I will.
9.If you must, have them pass an English test. Fail, Adios.
10. Stop Wendy's from hiring so many illegals
11. Stop giving loans to illegals who lie on their loan apps.
12. Stop selling real estate to illegals with fake docs
and I can think of a dozen other solutions. Solutions are available. Balls to enforce them is what's lacking.


3 posted on 11/28/2005 7:37:26 AM PST by poorjerk (Stop hiring illegals)
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To: conservativecorner
Sure does make you feel safe, doesn't it?

Actually no.
It makes me feel like I should check all my magazines again - just to make doubly sure I have the proper loads.

4 posted on 11/28/2005 7:37:40 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx


5 posted on 11/28/2005 7:41:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: conservativecorner
The Republicans under Bush have been so worried about courting the Hispanic vote, that they are losing their voters. We were talking about illegals at work the other day. Specifically, how they were costing the Harris Co. Hospital District hundreds of millions of dollars, how they were clogging the courts and jails, and how they were breaking the backs of the school districts since they use services without paying taxes. We talked about the sky high auto insurance rates because of all the unlicensed and uninsured drivers having crashes.

The consensus was that they republicans want their votes and not ours. I don't know if Bush & Co. realize what a huge issue this is.

I think they'll find out in 2006...

6 posted on 11/28/2005 7:42:55 AM PST by akron
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To: conservativecorner

All that keeeps our President from being a near-great President is his failure to root out and deport the illegals in our Country, and then, seal the border. But, given the scope of this fatal flaw, that is like saying that Hitler was a great leader except for his war crimes. He is fighting the enemy abroad while embracing invaders at home!


7 posted on 11/28/2005 7:43:53 AM PST by Focused Fury
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To: conservativecorner

We are handing this country to Mexico on a silver platter. I have no problem with immigrants coming here legally and speaking our language, but I am deeply upset and concerned about this double language mind set. Why does everything have to be written in English and Spanish, even the Tide to Go pen I bought last week was co written in Spanish.


8 posted on 11/28/2005 7:44:42 AM PST by mel
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To: conservativecorner

bingo!


9 posted on 11/28/2005 7:45:31 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: conservativecorner

I said it in an earlier thread, and I'll say it again. There is really only one logical explanation for the state of things. It is by design.


10 posted on 11/28/2005 7:48:51 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: conservativecorner

Our fine misrepresentatives and the standing POTUS can talk and talk and talk about this issue and accomplish the very thing they want - nothing. Absolutely nothing.

It's only a complex problem if you don't really want to solve it.


11 posted on 11/28/2005 7:49:08 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: conservativecorner

OK, it is too obvious but I'll say it anyway. Until the politicians actually start feeling consequences for their actions or the lack of, we will get the status quo.


14 posted on 11/28/2005 8:02:57 AM PST by drypowder
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To: conservativecorner

In 1985 my father was a carpenter building houses in the Houston area, he made $15 an hour. In 2005 with all the illegals the wages for a carpenter 20 years later are about $15 an hour. Illegals are used by companies to lower wages for all workers in the US.



21 posted on 11/28/2005 8:24:26 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: conservativecorner
For quite some time now their solution has been to do nothing....except propose an amnesty disguised as a guest worker program.

Absolutely false. The Bush administration has done more than nothing.

Bush's own appointed Social Security Administrator, in June 2004, signed a Totalization Agreement with Mexico that will, among other things, allow:


22 posted on 11/28/2005 8:44:51 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


35 posted on 11/28/2005 9:28:18 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: conservativecorner
To send them back might cost Republicans the Hispanic vote, and we can't have that.

I daresay it ain't the Hispanic vote (a surprisingly large number of Hispanic citizens think the US policy on the interlopers is too lax) but the rich white biz vote. The people who actually profit off of these folks.

36 posted on 11/28/2005 9:33:06 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: conservativecorner
The Bush administration, which for 5 years now has done absolutely nothing to curb the flow of illegal aliens into this country, has decided it's time to do something about it.


"Tell me lies, tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies."

38 posted on 11/28/2005 9:35:43 AM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: conservativecorner

1) I am in favor of the United States government securing America's citizens and believe the most immediate and effective method to accomplish this is by restricting the flow of illegal aliens into the U.S. by the construction of a continuous 24 ft high linear border barrier structure topped with razor wire and to reduce or end the attraction of felon employers by assessing them disabling fines and/or penalties. An additional benefit of such a linear border structure would be to restrict the movement of illegal drugs into the United States from Central America thereby reducing the annual federal expense of drug interdiction.

2) I am in favor of the Fourteenth Amendment being redefined - even if at individual state levels - to clarify that to qualify for birthright citizenship of the United States, a child must have been born of or adopted by a citizen or legal resident of the United States and that at least one parent or legal guardian must have to verify their citizenship or legal status before a birth certificate is issued by any agency. Any child born in the US not of a citizen or legal resident shall be issued a certificate of birth with non-citizen status clearly marked so that birth may not be used to complicate deportations of illegal aliens. I am also for rejecting of and the nullification of any certificates of marriage issued in the United States to any person who is not or was not legally admitted into the United States prior to the certificate's issuance or the application thereof. Persons who marry in other countries and whose non-citizen spouses wish to immigrate into the U.S. must follow current applicable immigration protocol.

3) I'm in favor of developing and implementing a scannable social security card system containing embedded digital information and images which can be electronically compared via network to that of national databases which would help reduce fraud, and the linking of those card ID's to state DMV licenses and state voter registrations. By making the SSI cards scannable and verifiable online, many excuses felon employers and illegal employees now use to circumvent U.S. immigration code would be reduced or eliminated as well as helping eliminate claims of ignorance which complicate successful prosecutions. This system would also help reduce incidents of identity theft, thus providing consumers added security from those with malicious intent as well as adding valuable security in the information off shoring trends taking place where consumers' personal and financial information is being distributed among entities in countries not subject to U.S. courts' jurisdiction.

4) After such ID is implemented, I believe our government should set a firm date whereby all employers will have had to verify and swear out an affidavit to the legal status of all their employees and after that cut-off date, those still intent, charged with, and found guilty of the felony of hiring illegal aliens would be fined $50,000 for each violation of the perjured affidavit or a minimum sixty percent of their annual net revenue. After that date, the government should allow enforcement of our immigration code to the letter and insist on apprehensions by any and all appropriate law enforcement authorities and should tie local governments' receiving federal monies to enforcement compliance. I believe it has become necessary we implement a system of bounties for information leading to both the apprehension and successful conviction of those felons and for the detainment and deportation of illegal aliens. Those states' Attorneys General should be given enforcement capabilities and allowed enforcement discretions within their respective states without hindrances from courts of law obstructing their enforcement duties.

5) I am in favor of taxpayer funded programs which are currently misused to pay able bodied people to not work to either cease to do so through more strict controls, be reduced so as to be considered as supplemental levels only, or be phased out totally. I would propose any agricultural related employer who is found guilty of employing illegal aliens should immediately cease the right to employ persons under the Federal agricultural minimum wage for five years, the standard minimum wage rates would apply for the duration of that term.

6) In order to augment #2, I would push for a mandate that no one but a parent or legal guardian who is a legal U.S. citizen and has contributed to the Social Security trust fund for a minimum of twenty consecutive quarters may apply for taxpayer funded benefits or services on behalf of minor children. Legal immigrants are currently restricted by law from receiving taxpayer funded benefits for a minimum twenty quarters or five years so this requirement is in keeping with applying a measure of fairness for all and may help reduce the attraction of "anchor babies" as a means to circumvent and complicate U.S. immigration code and its enforcement. This measure would also require at least five years of prior gainful and legal employment of any recipient and show proof of their contributions to the Social Security trust fund.

7) I'm in favor of removing immunities for all organizations which knowingly aid and abet illegal and fraudulent activity related to illegal immigration and in favor of aggressively seeking their demise should they insist on continuing to undermine U.S. law. These, by their very nature, are seeking to undermine established U.S. law and deserve prosecution to the fullest extent.

8) I'm in favor of establishing a Federal reimbursement system whereby monetary exchanges or transfers with countries whose illegal citizens "borrow" our taxpayer funded services are assessed, invoices prepared, and duties or taxes levied in percentage proportion by nationality of illegals apprehended as reported annually by our nation's Border Patrol.

9) I'm in favor of hospitals and health care providers being required to disclose publicly, in print, and upon demand, the names of all non-citizens/indigents receiving any medical care which is billed to or paid for by taxpayers along with the costs of those services billed or be penalized by losing reimbursements for any payments due to be paid from taxpayer funds. All hospitals and health care providers should be held openly accountable for how they spend or use public funds and accountable to the citizen first and the illegal alien only in emergency cases.

10) I am FOR the citizens of these United States to remain a sovereign nation and people, rejecting any outside influence of the United Nations into the laws of and upon the internal affairs of the American people. Cooperation from a position of strength is the foremost bargaining chip the USA should bring to the UN's table.

Without a step-by-step, yet comprehensive plan in place to deal with illegal aliens and the issues associated with unchecked entries into the United States, anything less is a futile effort.


39 posted on 11/28/2005 9:38:00 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Czar; Borax Queen
The Bush administration, which for 5 years now has done absolutely nothing to curb the flow of illegal aliens into this country, has decided it's time to do something about it. For quite some time now their solution has been to do nothing....except propose an amnesty disguised as a guest worker program. Nobody wants to talk about deporting those that break the laws of the United States and sneak into this country. To send them back might cost Republicans the Hispanic vote, and we can't have that.

Haven't read the article yet; generally speaking, I like Boortz...though I don't agree with EVERYTHING he ever says/thinks; still, I do think he usually hits the nail on the head, and anticipate this article will do just that. Hence my ping.

54 posted on 11/28/2005 12:03:52 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: conservativecorner
The Prez has thrown conservatives a "bone".. Except its not a bone only a hand drawn picture of a bone.. a two dimensional teaseing.. i.e "chew" on THIS.. if you must..

And hes not even embarassed..

56 posted on 11/28/2005 12:25:36 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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