Posted on 11/27/2005 2:12:07 PM PST by F14 Pilot
You're right. They need help.
I certainly hope that they get it and get it soon. For those interested they should read a post by F 14 Pilot regarding the the last Thanksgiving celebrated in Iran by the Americans.
Thanksgiving Memories.......
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1528701/posts
Thanks.
As one who vowed never again to be taken in by the myth of "Iranian Moderates" (post-Iran/Contra), I would say that these students must be protesting the lack of nuclear weapons in their country. I will believe otherwise when the students in question, and other like-minded Iranians, overthrow the Theocracy in Iran, with no assistance from us.
F14: Those protestors were MEK members - A Marxist Islamist group which is hated by majority of Iranians inside and outside of Iran: btw, what’s your point?!
humint: 6323cd, I’d like to make clear that F14 is mistaking in this case, the protesters in your picture are not members of the MEK. To your point, back in 1977, the geopolitical environment was very different than it is today. The sentiments of 77 are not particularly relevant now. Those sentiments were popular, “bottom up” and originated with U.S. support for the Shah. The sentiments of 77 have subsided for a number of reasons that include but are not limited to, contemporary demographics combined with the fact that these days, anti-Americanism is officially enforced in a “top down” fashion.
Worker’s strikes, ethnic unrest, newspaper closings, blogger arrests and student’s protests are measurements of internal restiveness. Each are well documented by the wire services however these stories rarely make the MSM. Massive demonstrations [between 5,000 to 25,000 Iranian expatriates] against the Iranian regime have occurred outside of Iran in Brussels, Berlin, Paris, Washington DC, New York and Los Angeles in the last five years. The scope of unrest goes far beyond Iranian students whom you imply will protest anything and everything. Recall that these are students living under dictatorship and have every reason to be in the streets demanding change.
Those in your photo from 1980 are Dast-eh Tude-ha, marxist extremists funded by the Soviets! No way do these people represent mainstream Iran. BTW, neither does the government!
MEK speaker is back!
u r dead wrong!
lol
F14, I do not speak for the MEK and have not gone anywhere. I've been posting about other topics but am well aware of the history of Iran and her political groups. If you'd like, we could converse about other Iranian groups but the only one you're interested in is the MEK. You brought the MEK topic up again and if you recall in one of our earlier conversations, I mentioned that when you're wrong about something I promised to let you know you're wrong, as a friend of course. It's clear from your posts that you have a personal and particularly emotional understanding of Iran's history. In this case you’re wrong and I think it is important to correct the record.
But before you start to slander again, please know that I'm trying to be particularly civil... note that I didn't comment earlier on how you so casually announced the opinions of the majority of Iranians both inside and outside Iran. Apparently you don't know that you do not believe the Iranian people should be democratically represented, only spoken for. I’m curious as to where and how you attained the special ability to know what the majority of Iranians want and don't want. Were you born with it or did you train really hard? I thought only one man had the power to dictate what the Iranian people want and don’t want, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenie. If you’re him… WOW! I never would have imagined a fascist dictator could appreciate a forum like FR!
the guys protesting the Shah in the US are bunch of Marxists Islamist clowns of MEK!
Period!
And you know that these jokers aren't a front for the Iranian clerics (like the "moderates" in the arms for hostages deal) because: a. an Iranian moderate told you so... b. the pictures "journalists" take never lie... c. you hope it's that way... (hope is not a strategy)... d. all of the above.
You know, Fox sent a female reporter into Iran who claims she had pretty good access to "young people". She said that while some of the young Iranians (male and female) had gripes about the lack of freedom of expression, all of them supported the current government position on "peaceful" nuclear development. That sounds revolting, but it doesn't sound like a revolution.
I wonder how many Iranians on the street are aware of the laptop the CIA acquired with full specs for a nuclear warhead and the means to forge and HEU sphere? Iranians know the media is run by the state but if you ask the populace, "is more electricity good" they are going to say yeah sure! The media in Iran is framing our President as a war criminal, what do you suppose they broadcast about their nuclear program? I can imagine things like "The Great Satan wants to keep the Iranian people from fulfilling their destiny by preventing 'you' from having peaceful electricity". When we get serious about confronting the Iranian government, the Iranian people will respond in kind.
okie dokie!
bttt!
Strength in numbers, BTTT.
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