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Dishonest, Reprehensible, Corrupt [NYT Frank Rich on Cheney]
The NY Times ^ | Nov. 27, 2005 | Frank Rich

Posted on 11/27/2005 1:24:02 PM PST by summer

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To: OldFriend

I guess that means no one here will miss him, but -- there are a lot of NYT readers who lurk on FR, of that I'm sure. And, now, there is no response to Frank Rich. I really think that's bad. The NYT needs to rethink its position on TimesSelect for its political columnists, if people are to be able to discuss and present different points of view in a national dialogue. Otherwise, the NYT contributes to the polarization.


21 posted on 11/27/2005 1:39:35 PM PST by summer
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To: OldFriend

Change his oil. Rotate his tires. Cheney's good for another 100,000 miles.


22 posted on 11/27/2005 1:40:05 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: OldFriend

And, I realize most people here believe the NYT is just slime. But, the NYT keepiing CLAIMING it wants to be unbiased! And says it's going to expand its coverage of religion and regional matters. But, then, this. Not a good decision by the NYT.


23 posted on 11/27/2005 1:40:39 PM PST by summer
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To: summer

Frank who????


24 posted on 11/27/2005 1:41:43 PM PST by Waco
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To: Texas Eagle
To get the full intended effect of this article, have someone swing a pocketwatch from side to side in front of your face and quietly chant, "You are getting sleepy....sleeeeeeepy...."

I'm with you on that....if you change "sleepy" to "stupid".

25 posted on 11/27/2005 1:43:37 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: summer

Hmmmm.....

Frank Rich, a writer for the BS?NBT....
vs.

Dick Cheney, former Congressman, SecDef Iraq1, and 2 term VP.

What more does one need to know?


26 posted on 11/27/2005 1:43:51 PM PST by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: Waco; summer

"Frank who?"

That's what I think as well. If you want a truly consistent leftist columnist, we can read Canada's Gwynne Dwyer or Britain's Robert Fisk and they are widely available. To this foreigner, we don't need yet another leftist but who writes at juvenile-level, even if the sentimental reason is "He is an American, so he must understand American politics better."


27 posted on 11/27/2005 1:44:34 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: summer

Dishonest, Reprehensible, Corrupt.

1) Dishonest - "I did not sleep with that Woman, Monica Lewinsky"

2) Reprehensible - is leaving a funeral joking it up with your buddies, then immediately going into "tear shed mode" within 2 seconds of spotting the cameras.

3) Corrupt - is selling the Lincoln Bedroom; is accepting campaign cash from illegal sources; is changing the export rules for big contributor Loral that enabled China to have nuclear weapons pointed at us to this day; is pardoning the husband of a large campaign contributor; is pardoning unrepentant FLN terrorists in the eve of 9/11

I'm not reading this article. But somehow I doubt there's anything nearly as damning against Cheney as against Bill Clinton. Probably just unfounded allegations, not items with actual evidence like the above.

28 posted on 11/27/2005 1:45:15 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: NZerFromHK

That's a good point - maybe the NYT has inadvertedly widened the discussion with its TimesSelect, by forcing readers to look to international writers, published for free elsewhere, instead of NYT writers whose articles can not now be posted unless you pay.


29 posted on 11/27/2005 1:46:46 PM PST by summer
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To: summer

Frank Rich: Dishonest, Reprehensible, Corrupt ...

Now that's what I call Truth in Advertising.

30 posted on 11/27/2005 1:47:39 PM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Readers are becomiong more discerning. Soon, the only columnists who will be making a living at it will be those who offer unique viewpoints spiced with wit and wisdom.

Which means Frank Rich is doomed. Doomed!


31 posted on 11/27/2005 1:47:54 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: summer
The secret to Chaney's popularity is to let people hear him speak. I remember his first-term VP debates. First of all, it was clear that the best candidates were running for VP in both parties. Secondly, Cheney was so on point and credible it was clear he would be a great president.

His medical problems will send him out to pasture.

32 posted on 11/27/2005 1:48:23 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: JRios1968

LOL...you just did what Rich did in his column. Turned one's own words upside down. :)


33 posted on 11/27/2005 1:48:40 PM PST by summer
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To: summer
Bingo, Summer...

The Times took its previously-influential columnists, especially Rich, Krugman and Dowd, completely out of the marketplace of ideas, cut their readership by 90%, and for all intents and purposes marginalized them.

Even liberals won't pay $50 a year to be lectured to by these Three Stooges, when there's plenty of other writers who get the same DNC talking points fax as these three, and write the same points into substantially similar columns. The only original bit any of them have ever done is MoDo's entertaining, "I can't get a date, therefore men hate intelligent women," perennial whine. And it's not entertaining in the way the poor spinster intends.

The real reason, though, I'd bet, is that Calame and Keller got tired of trying to get Krugman to correct his usual alternative facts.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

34 posted on 11/27/2005 1:49:15 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: bigsigh
His medical problems will send him out to pasture.

I think you're right about that. But Frank Rich will probably claim a political victory anyway, despite any evidence to the contrary as to why Cheney might not be around. I amazed he has lasted this long in such a stressful job, with all his medical problems.
35 posted on 11/27/2005 1:50:16 PM PST by summer
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To: Criminal Number 18F

Bingo to you, too! I think you're right. :)


36 posted on 11/27/2005 1:51:05 PM PST by summer
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To: summer

Do you really think the NYT cares?
They want polarization.
They want Conservatives to become liberals.
They do not want discussion or responses.


37 posted on 11/27/2005 1:52:26 PM PST by arjay (More government is never the answer.)
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To: summer

If Cheney dies of a heart attack, I'm sure liberals will take credit for some satanic curse.


38 posted on 11/27/2005 1:52:32 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: arjay

Their stockholders care.

They'll only put up with this juvenile journalism from their money-gushing baby boomer editorial staff for so long.


39 posted on 11/27/2005 1:59:03 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: summer
Rich and Dowd and who-knows-else are now under the Times Select option. I'm really curious as to how many people are signing up for paid subscriptions for that bilge. Buying the paper at least gives the crossword and TV listings....
40 posted on 11/27/2005 1:59:26 PM PST by Rummyfan
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