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Sen. Joe Biden: Not Enough Troops
NewsMax ^ | 11/27/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 11/27/2005 11:09:48 AM PST by wagglebee

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To: HawaiianGecko

So you are saying that not enough troops was Rumsfelds plan all along and he did not tell the commanders on the ground. That this was in order for them to keep taking the same town to kill bad guys in the same place again and again.


41 posted on 11/27/2005 12:48:00 PM PST by Cessna182
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To: Cobra64
There's no confusion. General Honore pegged 'em.

Stuck on Stupid!
42 posted on 11/27/2005 12:48:11 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Cessna182
 
"So you are saying that not enough troops was Rumsfelds plan all along and he did not tell the commanders on the ground. "

No, I'm saying it was Rumsfeld's plan all along to have exactly the right amount of troops.  I have no opinion on whether or not commanders on the ground were told.  I do have an opinion that these commanders are educated enough to know the difference between a war against 'stateless' terrorists and a war against another country.

If we were at war against Iraq or France for that matter, I'd agree with overwhelming, occupying force.  After all France would be interested in what is best for their people and would surrender.  Having a similar force in Iraq wouldn't force Zarqari to surrender, regardless of how many towns and provinces you occupy.

Terrorist can pack their bags and move to another country for about seventeen dollars, we can't.  Now think about this hypothetical:

All terrorists ceased 100% of their activity in Iraq today and we somehow knew they would never bomb another site in Iraq.  We'd be able to come home right?  In fact we'd be forced to come home. However, there would still be 'x' amount of terrorist in Iraq plotting against the west.

Second hypothetical: We successfully occupy all of Iraq with 500,000 troops. No more Iraqis or troops are killed and no more suicide bombers or IEDs are built in Iraq. Terrorists sit at home, some go to Somalia, some to Syria the rest to yet another location. I personally don't believe they will go home to pick up a garden hoe and become model citizens. I believe they will engage the United States again only this time on our soil.

I believe our commanders should know this. I believe the ones who don't understand this or refuse to believe this need to be replaced. Not because they are idiots, they just need to be sent stateside to wait for a possible war against a 'nation-state' like North Korea where their way of thinking & waging war makes sense.

 

 

 

 

 

43 posted on 11/27/2005 1:11:09 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: BIGLOOK
Folks, the REAL problem is that you're looking to members of our Senate for LEADERSHIP....

That is IMPOSSIBLE....Look at the fools who have been elected SENATOR...

That is precisely why the selection of PRESIDENT is so damned important!

Every member of the Senate has an ego larger than their ability and a desire to be President which is greater than their interest in the Security of the United States...

If one would simply regard the Congress Critters and Senators, collectively as UNTRUSTABLE and inept feckless imbeciles -- one will not be disappointed.

Semper Fi
44 posted on 11/27/2005 1:17:33 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

ok.


45 posted on 11/27/2005 1:18:06 PM PST by Cessna182
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To: river rat
Senate members...

1%ers

46 posted on 11/27/2005 1:26:51 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: BIGLOOK
Stuck on Stupid!

So THAT's where Rush got the expression. Cool!

47 posted on 11/27/2005 2:28:52 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: wagglebee

Speaking of Joe Biden, is he a donor for Jonathon Alter?


48 posted on 11/27/2005 5:36:04 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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