Posted on 11/27/2005 9:35:33 AM PST by Khankrumthebulgar
I thought I was the only person on the face of the earth that got this dialogue from MP's "Grail". I didn't know if it was just me that thought this was hilariously funny with its dry, English ironic wit, or the rest of the world didn't get it and I am insane. Now, I discover your post after all these years of self doubt and now can only wonder about us both.
...........;^)
My favorite scene.
Yep. Always makes me laugh when you hear liberal pagans go on about how liberating and empowering dancing in the altogether is, not realising it came about because of a dirty old man who wanted to get laid more.
Ah, those ridiculous pagans. I feel sorry for them, I really do. They don't know the joy of worshiping an inivible man in the sky.
Freedom Is a Two Edged Sword--------------------------------------------
Haven't you noticed
that many Heinlein "households"
look just like covens?!
It's not hard finding
a strange overlap between
libertarians
and deep occultists.
They share the basic premise
of "Do What Thou Wilt."
]The Wiccan Rede
(Full Version)
Bide within the Law you must, in perfect Love and perfect Trust.
Live you must and let to live, fairly take and fairly give.
For tread the Circle thrice about to keep unwelcome spirits out.
To bind the spell well every time, let the spell be said in rhyme.
Light of eye and soft of touch, speak you little, listen much.
Honor the Old Ones in deed and name,
let love and light be our guides again.
Deosil go by the waxing moon, chanting out the joyful tune.
Widdershins go when the moon doth wane,
and the werewolf howls by the dread wolfsbane.
When the Lady's moon is new, kiss the hand to Her times two.
When the moon rides at Her peak then your heart's desire seek.
Heed the North winds mighty gale, lock the door and trim the sail.
When the Wind blows from the East, expect the new and set the feast.
When the wind comes from the South, love will kiss you on the mouth.
When the wind whispers from the West, all hearts will find peace and rest.
Nine woods in the Cauldron go, burn them fast and burn them slow.
Birch in the fire goes to represent what the Lady knows.
Oak in the forest towers with might, in the fire it brings the God's
insight. Rowan is a tree of power causing life and magick to flower.
Willows at the waterside stand ready to help us to the Summerland.
Hawthorn is burned to purify and to draw faerie to your eye.
Hazel-the tree of wisdom and learning adds its strength to the bright fire burning.
White are the flowers of Apple tree that brings us fruits of fertility.
Grapes grow upon the vine giving us both joy and wine.
Fir does mark the evergreen to represent immortality seen.
Elder is the Lady's tree burn it not or cursed you'll be.
Four times the Major Sabbats mark in the light and in the dark.
As the old year starts to wane the new begins, it's now Samhain.
When the time for Imbolc shows watch for flowers through the snows.
When the wheel begins to turn soon the Beltane fires will burn.
As the wheel turns to Lamas night power is brought to magick rite.
Four times the Minor Sabbats fall use the Sun to mark them all.
When the wheel has turned to Yule light the log the Horned One rules.
In the spring, when night equals day time for Ostara to come our way.
When the Sun has reached it's height time for Oak and Holly to fight.
Harvesting comes to one and all when the Autumn Equinox does fall.
Heed the flower, bush, and tree by the Lady blessed you'll be.
Where the rippling waters go cast a stone, the truth you'll know.
When you have and hold a need, harken not to others greed.
With a fool no season spend or be counted as his friend.
Merry Meet and Merry Part bright the cheeks and warm the heart.
Mind the Three-fold Laws you should three times bad and three times good.
When misfortune is enow wear the star upon your brow.
Be true in love this you must do unless your love is false to you.
These Eight words the Rede fulfill:
"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
The truth is that many young wiccans are so because of 'do as I say, not as I do' parents and other adult rolemodels.
Think of, say, young kids
going to see The Passion
or going to this.
Which movie presents
a more enticing image
of a religion?
I liked both movies but I can see The Craft being more appealing to young girls.
I'll check out "freedom is a two edged sword" Found a copy for $10. The rest are quite pricy.
For those reading my post and want to make snide comments, I'm not a wiccan, but I do study the many paths people take to explore the spirit.
The common visualization of a thundering bearded man sitting on a throne is so limiting.
The common visualisation that you refer to comes from people who are self hating and insecure with the concept of a loving father God. They just can't relate.
OK the common visualization of loving bearded father on a throne in heaven showering love upon us in return for our occasional devotion is still a limited view of what god/spirit is and what lies beyond the physical realm.
I believe in prayer, I believe in spirit and I believe in a creator. I just don't consider myself a Christian.
I do stand up for and will fight discrimination against Christians, just because the MSM and liberals seem to target them and ridicule them so. In doing so I would hope that the Christian would show the same respect to my beliefs and not insist that their words, their church and their path to God is the only true path.
I realize the Christian influence in the founding of our country, I accept it. I would never wish to ever live in any theocracy that was based on any religion, ever. I have come to the conclusion that secularism, environmentalism, liberalism, statism are all the religions of the left. Well, statism has worshipers on the right also.
The only extreme that I hold dear, is that government when it reaches a certain size becomes oppressive no matter what name it goes by. Our government was about the right size in about 1900 and that is about the level I would prefer it get rolled back to. Roads, defense of the country, the courts are about it. That is what our government should be concerned with.
Didn't mean to rant, but it just kept coming out...
Christianity
can't be (at least, shouldn't be)
judged by pop culture
cliches and "common"
views of the world of Scripture.
I don't think any
"culture" creation
(except -- just maybe -- Jack Chick)
has made an attempt
to present the world
as it really is through but viewed
through a Christian lens,
with no distortions,
no apologies and no
editorials.
Finding fault with Christ
based on "common views" of God
is like hating food
cause McDonalds sucks.
(I don't mean to rant either.
Just a small sermon . . .)
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