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Clearwater Man Puts Technology To Work
Tampa Bay Online ^ | 11/27/2005 | WILL RODGERS

Posted on 11/27/2005 6:53:37 AM PST by wjersey

CLEARWATER -- Denny Klein thinks he has found a new commercial use for hydrogen technology.

Working in a small, two-room shop at the Airport Business Center, Klein, 63, said he has developed a gas that speeds welding and fusing times and improves automobile fuel efficiency 30 percent.

Although the technology Klein uses -- electrolysis -- has been around for decades, he said it's the form of gas that comes out of his electrolyzer and the characteristics of the gas that set his hydrogen technology apart.

Klein's gas is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. Sound familiar? Yep, it's water.

Electrolysis is a process that uses an electrical charge in water to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen. But coming out of Klein's gas generator, the H2O 1500 electrolyzer, it's not water, he said. Klein, president of Hydrogen Technology Applications Inc., calls it HHO, or the brand name Aquygen.

"You get a huge energy response," Klein said. "But this gas is very, very safe."

Klein -- who employs eight people, four in Florida, three who handle licensing out of Kentucky and his son, Greg, in Ohio -- is no engineer. The Ohio native attended Ohio State University and Capital University in Columbus, Ohio, for business administration.

His aptitude in hydrogen technology came from self-study. He has worked alongside engineers in whirlpool spa and suntanning businesses, and says he has six employees with doctorates on his advisory board.

Klein said he has a patent pending on the gas he has been working on for 12 years. Various models of his H2O electrolyzers are being used across the country in high school shop classes and undergoing testing to be certified for use in welding shops.

Flipping a switch on his H2O 1500, Klein picks up a hose with a metal tip, creates a spark, and instantly a blue and white glowing stream shoots out of the metal tip.

He holds the tip with his fingers to prove how cool it is to the touch, unlike such a tip when oxy-acetylene is burned for welding. But the instant he sets the flame on a charcoal briquette, it glows bright orange. Then, within seconds, he burns a hole through a brick, cuts steel and melts Tungsten.

The temperature of the flame is 259 degrees Fahrenheit. But it instantaneously rises to the melting temperature of whatever it touches, Klein said. Those temperatures can exceed 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

"You can't do this with any other gas," he said.

Klein also has outfitted a 1994 Ford Escort station wagon with a smaller electrolyzer that injects his HHO into the gasoline in the car's engine. He said he has increased his mileage per gallon by 30 percent.

That also is undergoing testing from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and other private motorsports companies, Klein said.

Klein said he has 19 projects in the works.

Ali T-Raissi, director of the hydrogen research and development division of the Florida Solar Energy Center, said he is not familiar with Klein's HHO or electrolyzer. But he said applying hydrogen technology in that way comes at a price.

T-Raissi said mixing the hydrogen with gasoline will require a change in the typical car engine. And creating the gas requires electricity, which comes at a cost.

"You can increase your mileage performance, but you have to ask: Am I still ahead, or am I behind?"

Klein said his formulation of hydrogen doesn't require altering an engine. And his electrolyzer cost about 70 cents an hour to operate, which he considers a bargain.

Klein said his method for introducing hydrogen into a vehicle to increase mileage is superior to hydrogen used in fuel cells.

One of the biggest challenges facing hydrogen fuel cells is storing the gas. To meet today's driving requirements, it would take a lot more hydrogen than can now be stored safely in a vehicle. Klein's HHO is made on-demand and mixed directly with the gasoline in the engine at slightly more pressure than is currently there.

He said he plans to take Hydrogen Technology, which now has private investors, public in the first half of 2006.


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1 posted on 11/27/2005 6:53:37 AM PST by wjersey
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To: wjersey
And his electrolyzer cost about 70 cents an hour to operate, which he considers a bargain.

Kind of depends on how much of this gas it produces for that 70 cents.

2 posted on 11/27/2005 6:59:12 AM PST by Restorer (They want to die, we want to kill them.)
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To: wjersey

That is cool.


3 posted on 11/27/2005 6:59:43 AM PST by jeremiah (People wake up, the water is getting hot)
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To: wjersey

Seems too good to be true.


4 posted on 11/27/2005 7:06:11 AM PST by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the north. It was settled by the French and liberals still run it.)
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To: wjersey
Interesting article. I hope they can make this viable.
If they cant make it run a car efficiently yet it already sounds great for welding and cutting. Or for lighting my grill.



"He holds the tip with his fingers to prove how cool it is to the touch, unlike such a tip when oxy-acetylene is burned for welding. But the instant he sets the flame on a charcoal briquette, it glows bright orange. Then, within seconds, he burns a hole through a brick, cuts steel and melts Tungsten.

The temperature of the flame is 259 degrees Fahrenheit. But it instantaneously rises to the melting temperature of whatever it touches, Klein said. Those temperatures can exceed 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit."
5 posted on 11/27/2005 7:06:53 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

We need to get some of the scientist and engineer types to take a look at this.

It sounds suspicious to me, but my technical background isn't in this area.


6 posted on 11/27/2005 7:08:24 AM PST by Restorer (They want to die, we want to kill them.)
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To: No Blue States
The temperature of the flame is 259 degrees Fahrenheit. But it instantaneously rises to the melting temperature of whatever it touches

He's practically bagged himself a Nobel Prize for Scientific Research.

7 posted on 11/27/2005 7:09:51 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: quantim
I'm a skeptic on this.
8 posted on 11/27/2005 7:13:47 AM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: wjersey

very, very interesting


9 posted on 11/27/2005 7:13:53 AM PST by phil112
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To: wjersey

Hoping-it-works bump


10 posted on 11/27/2005 7:18:49 AM PST by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: wjersey; neverdem


11 posted on 11/27/2005 7:19:38 AM PST by bitt ( Dems: summer soldiers, sunshine patriots, and armchair Napoleons.)
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To: AntiGuv


12 posted on 11/27/2005 7:19:54 AM PST by bitt ( Dems: summer soldiers, sunshine patriots, and armchair Napoleons.)
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To: wjersey
There's a reason electrolysis gas is not used large scale.

It's Dangerous as all hell. Lots of atomic hydrogen, most powerful acid, atomic oxygen, hydroxyl radicals (OH). It'll essentially etch the surface lifting, say, tungsten atoms free, which then burn (combine with the oxygen) which doesn't sound so bad. But everything else is combining with the oxygen, hydrogen, or hydroxyl. The "Everything else" is unpredictable. And that makes it dangerous.

13 posted on 11/27/2005 7:21:09 AM PST by JohnCliftn (In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Good Will.)
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To: Restorer

"Various models of his H2O electrolyzers are being used across the country in high school shop classes and undergoing testing to be certified for use in welding shops."

"Klein also has outfitted a 1994 Ford Escort station wagon with a smaller electrolyzer that injects his HHO into the gasoline in the car's engine. He said he has increased his mileage per gallon by 30 percent."

"That also is undergoing testing from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and other private motorsports companies, Klein said."

"He said he plans to take Hydrogen Technology, which now has private investors, public in the first half of 2006."

It does sounds like more than just a pipe dream.
Although I dont much know about these things.









14 posted on 11/27/2005 7:22:08 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States
"He holds the tip with his fingers to prove how cool it is to the touch, ...The temperature of the flame is 259 degrees Fahrenheit

Last time I checked... (OUCH!), 259 degrees will put a nice big burn on you.

15 posted on 11/27/2005 7:24:04 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: wjersey; All

This is commonly called "Brown's Gas" and has been around for a very long time. Google for Browns Gas and you'll find hundreds/thousands of sites/pages.


16 posted on 11/27/2005 7:27:20 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
"But it instantaneously rises to the melting temperature of whatever it touches, Klein said. Those temperatures can exceed 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

According to the article that would be the "tips of his fingers."

17 posted on 11/27/2005 7:31:04 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: wjersey

This 'inventor' is infringing on Yull Brown's U.S. Patent (U.S. Patent 4081656, 1978) for Brown's Gas. Hope he has a good lawyer.


18 posted on 11/27/2005 7:33:25 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: wjersey
Nice to hear positive news for once out of Clearwater.

Hope his idea works and gets put to good practical use!

19 posted on 11/27/2005 7:34:16 AM PST by kstewskis ("Thank you ladies and gentlemen, you've been a wonderful audience" ...Rocky Rhodes)
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To: AmericaUnited
This is commonly called "Brown's Gas" and has been around for a very long time. Google for Browns Gas and you'll find hundreds/thousands of sites/pages.

I think you are right on. I remember reading about Brown's gas years ago. The "cool feel" at the finger tip is probably related more to heat transfer from a small flame combined with evaporitive cooling from sweat. Same thing that lets people walk over hot coals.

20 posted on 11/27/2005 7:34:29 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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