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Clearwater Man Puts Technology To Work
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| 11/27/2005
| WILL RODGERS
Posted on 11/27/2005 6:53:37 AM PST by wjersey
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posted on
11/27/2005 6:53:37 AM PST
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wjersey
To: wjersey
And his electrolyzer cost about 70 cents an hour to operate, which he considers a bargain.Kind of depends on how much of this gas it produces for that 70 cents.
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posted on
11/27/2005 6:59:12 AM PST
by
Restorer
(They want to die, we want to kill them.)
To: wjersey
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posted on
11/27/2005 6:59:43 AM PST
by
jeremiah
(People wake up, the water is getting hot)
To: wjersey
Seems too good to be true.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:06:11 AM PST
by
quantim
(Detroit is the New Orleans of the north. It was settled by the French and liberals still run it.)
To: wjersey
Interesting article. I hope they can make this viable.
If they cant make it run a car efficiently yet it already sounds great for welding and cutting. Or for lighting my grill.
"He holds the tip with his fingers to prove how cool it is to the touch, unlike such a tip when oxy-acetylene is burned for welding. But the instant he sets the flame on a charcoal briquette, it glows bright orange. Then, within seconds, he burns a hole through a brick, cuts steel and melts Tungsten.
The temperature of the flame is 259 degrees Fahrenheit. But it instantaneously rises to the melting temperature of whatever it touches, Klein said. Those temperatures can exceed 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit."
To: No Blue States
We need to get some of the scientist and engineer types to take a look at this.
It sounds suspicious to me, but my technical background isn't in this area.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:08:24 AM PST
by
Restorer
(They want to die, we want to kill them.)
To: No Blue States
The temperature of the flame is 259 degrees Fahrenheit. But it instantaneously rises to the melting temperature of whatever it touches
He's practically bagged himself a Nobel Prize for Scientific Research.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:09:51 AM PST
by
ExcursionGuy84
("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
To: quantim
I'm a skeptic on this.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:13:47 AM PST
by
beef
(Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
To: wjersey
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:13:53 AM PST
by
phil112
To: wjersey
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:18:49 AM PST
by
roaddog727
(P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
To: wjersey; neverdem
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:19:38 AM PST
by
bitt
( Dems: summer soldiers, sunshine patriots, and armchair Napoleons.)
To: AntiGuv
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:19:54 AM PST
by
bitt
( Dems: summer soldiers, sunshine patriots, and armchair Napoleons.)
To: wjersey
There's a reason electrolysis gas is not used large scale.
It's Dangerous as all hell. Lots of atomic hydrogen, most powerful acid, atomic oxygen, hydroxyl radicals (OH). It'll essentially etch the surface lifting, say, tungsten atoms free, which then burn (combine with the oxygen) which doesn't sound so bad. But everything else is combining with the oxygen, hydrogen, or hydroxyl. The "Everything else" is unpredictable. And that makes it dangerous.
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11/27/2005 7:21:09 AM PST
by
JohnCliftn
(In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Good Will.)
To: Restorer
"Various models of his H2O electrolyzers are being used across the country in high school shop classes and undergoing testing to be certified for use in welding shops."
"Klein also has outfitted a 1994 Ford Escort station wagon with a smaller electrolyzer that injects his HHO into the gasoline in the car's engine. He said he has increased his mileage per gallon by 30 percent."
"That also is undergoing testing from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and other private motorsports companies, Klein said."
"He said he plans to take Hydrogen Technology, which now has private investors, public in the first half of 2006."
It does sounds like more than just a pipe dream.
Although I dont much know about these things.
To: No Blue States
"He holds the tip with his fingers to prove how cool it is to the touch, ...The temperature of the flame is 259 degrees Fahrenheit Last time I checked... (OUCH!), 259 degrees will put a nice big burn on you.
To: wjersey; All
This is commonly called "Brown's Gas" and has been around for a very long time. Google for Browns Gas and you'll find hundreds/thousands of sites/pages.
To: AmericaUnited
"But it instantaneously rises to the melting temperature of whatever it touches, Klein said. Those temperatures can exceed 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
According to the article that would be the "tips of his fingers."
To: wjersey
This 'inventor' is infringing on Yull Brown's U.S. Patent (U.S. Patent 4081656, 1978) for Brown's Gas. Hope he has a good lawyer.
To: wjersey
Nice to hear positive news for once out of Clearwater.
Hope his idea works and gets put to good practical use!
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:34:16 AM PST
by
kstewskis
("Thank you ladies and gentlemen, you've been a wonderful audience" ...Rocky Rhodes)
To: AmericaUnited
This is commonly called "Brown's Gas" and has been around for a very long time. Google for Browns Gas and you'll find hundreds/thousands of sites/pages. I think you are right on. I remember reading about Brown's gas years ago. The "cool feel" at the finger tip is probably related more to heat transfer from a small flame combined with evaporitive cooling from sweat. Same thing that lets people walk over hot coals.
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