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Abe Lincoln and the media

Posted on 11/26/2005 9:36:29 PM PST by Mier

While all the anti war cowards were screaming for Bush to cut and run and our willing accomplice main stream media acting like kids in a candy store. I heard someone on talk radio say that during the civil war Lincoln had his media detracters thrown in the bottom of a war ship until the war was over. But I can't find any facts on-line to back it up. Does any one know where I might go to find information on this? I mentioned this to a (left wing co-worker) and he thinks I made it up. I sure would like to prove him wrong! Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.


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KEYWORDS: abelincoln; american; constitutionstomper; despot; dishonestabe; dixie; dixielost; greydiaperbabies; honestabe; kinglincoln; rebellion; slavers; tyrant; union; victory
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To: Non-Sequitur
Payback is a bitch. Same as my original summation, you make what you will of it, as you damn the Southerners and praise the unionists for the slaughter.
101 posted on 11/28/2005 3:45:57 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Non-Sequitur

So, must be a real great read, of fiction that is.


102 posted on 11/28/2005 3:47:35 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
So, must be a real great read, of fiction that is.

If I want fiction I can just read you posts, bad fiction at that.

But yes, it is an interesting book. Well documented. It doesn't pull any punches where Lane and his ilk are concerned, but also shows Anderson and Quantrill for the psychopaths that they were.

103 posted on 11/28/2005 4:43:17 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: rustbucket
which by its secession teachings and attacks upon the acts of the officers of the United States Government and the Administration afforded aid and comfort to the insurrectionists,

Aid and comfort to the enemy? That's one of the definitions of treason, isn't it? First amendment doesn't protect against criminal acts.

104 posted on 11/28/2005 4:45:08 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Same as my original summation, you make what you will of it, as you damn the Southerners and praise the unionists for the slaughter.

Perhaps you can point out where I praised the Unionists for murdering innocent civilians? It's you that justified those actions, not me.

105 posted on 11/28/2005 4:46:04 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: LS

That is where you are totally wrong, Yank. My ancestor who fought for the Confederacy FREED his slaves, because he felt slavery was wrong. My Texas ancestor was a cattleman & rancher, who didn't own any. I have always believed that it was wrong, but refuse to buy into the Yankee Propoganda line, that most slaves were mis-treated, because they WEREN'T. Think what you want, misguided as you are......


106 posted on 11/28/2005 5:21:43 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Ditto

But I have. I am not trying to convince myself......


107 posted on 11/28/2005 5:24:55 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Would certainly be in character for Lincoln to have done JUST THAT! (NOT SARCASM)


108 posted on 11/28/2005 5:26:44 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Non-Sequitur

I don't think there were any "Sescesh" in Lawrence....
So...you figure it out.


109 posted on 11/28/2005 5:28:16 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861
It was wrong, but...

It was either wrong or it wasn't. As a very wise man from the period said, "If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong." No buts about it. Pretty it up all you want, talk about how slaves weren't beaten, how the masters were kind, and it still doesn't change the fact that ownership of other human beings was looked upon in the south as a good thing. It was, in fact, a bad thing regardless of what you think.

110 posted on 11/28/2005 5:31:21 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mier
The Fate of Liberty: Abraham Lincoln and civil Liberties by Mark Neely

American bastile: A history of the illegal arrests and imprisonment of American citizens during the late Civil War by John Marshall

111 posted on 11/28/2005 5:32:40 PM PST by Alouette (Talent on loan from ZOG)
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To: TexConfederate1861
I don't think there were any "Sescesh" in Lawrence.... So...you figure it out.

Not hard at all. In your eyes there were no innocent Unionists. All deserved to die. The fact that Quantrill shot down unarmed men and boys is OK to you, kept the rebel body count down.

112 posted on 11/28/2005 5:32:50 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Rabble

Chief Justice Taney, a Democrat appointed by Andrew Jackson, wrote the opinion of the Court in Dred Scott.


113 posted on 11/28/2005 5:34:47 PM PST by counterpunch (~ Let O'Connor Go Home! ~)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Shall we discuss Jim Lane & his "Redlegs" and the people HE
massacred?!


114 posted on 11/28/2005 5:36:43 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Non-Sequitur

Quantrill and Bill Anderson were terrorists, so was John Brown.

John Wilkes Booth was a stage celebrity.

Everything old is new again.


115 posted on 11/28/2005 5:38:06 PM PST by Alouette (Talent on loan from ZOG)
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To: Alouette
While you're at it include Southern Rights: Political Prisoners and the Myth of Southern Confederate Constitutionalism by Mark Neely as well.
116 posted on 11/28/2005 5:38:51 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

By the standards of the day, slavery was not looked upon as evil. I have always said it was wrong. But the fact that it was wrong also doesn't change the fact that most Southerners treated their slaves well.


117 posted on 11/28/2005 5:39:55 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861
Shall we discuss Jim Lane & his "Redlegs" and the people HE massacred?!

If you like. The difference is that I don't try and justify his actions while you approve of Quantrill's and Anderson's.

118 posted on 11/28/2005 5:40:20 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: TexConfederate1861
I have always said it was wrong.

No, you said it was wrong but... In other words it wasn't all THAT bad in your eyes.

119 posted on 11/28/2005 5:42:23 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Everything is not always an absolute.....Try a philosophy course.


120 posted on 11/28/2005 5:44:43 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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