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To: zbigreddogz
The Civil War was NOT an example of justice catching up eventually. It was a matter of justice imposed by force, at the expense of the law. Did you know Lincoln actually had a SC justice essentially taken prisoner (he had the army go stop the train he was on) so he could raise an army even though the court said it was unconstitutional?

You are one of those wierd South Will Rise Again types, aren't you?

And what does Gay Marrage have to do with anything? If you have a valid point here, it's not clear. If anything, it would appear to strenghten my arguement that sometimes laws go to far and have no place in society and must be resisted.

The main argument that Gay Marriage proponents use is that Blacks couldn't vote or marry and their (the gay side) issue is the very same thing.

All grow out of a feeling of "invalid laws" like the fabled Militia in montana or Texas Republic.

66 posted on 11/26/2005 2:00:05 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Let's tear down the observatory so we never get hit by a meteor again!)
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To: freedumb2003
You are one of those wierd South Will Rise Again types, aren't you?

Obviously, if you actually care to think about this issue instead of react insultingly, I am arguing just the opposite.

It is clear that I was arguing that Lincoln needed to put down the south at all cost, that the law had failed him because it had a built in paradox where on one hand, what he did was technically illegal, but since the laws were based in large part on individual rights, which were not being granted, they had nothing to stand on.

The main argument that Gay Marriage proponents use is that Blacks couldn't vote or marry and their (the gay side) issue is the very same thing.

All grow out of a feeling of "invalid laws" like the fabled Militia in montana or Texas Republic.

You seem incapable of making any sort of judgement beyond the law. All claims that laws are invalid are not equal. But that doesn't mean that none of them are valid.

George Washington broke every law in the books. He's the father of our country. Unless you are going to argue that America is immorally and illigitimately founded, its impossible to logically argue that all laws are absolute at all times. They aren't, and the Declaration of Independance says so.

82 posted on 11/26/2005 2:56:29 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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