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Parade name change by mayor spurs boycott
SignonSanDiego ^ | 11/26/05 | Angela Lau

Posted on 11/26/2005 12:00:04 PM PST by pissant

ENCINITAS – Three community groups and members of a Jewish temple are boycotting this year's holiday parade because the city reverted to a name that they said discriminates against non-Christian religions: the Christmas Parade.

Mayor Dan Dalager said he used his prerogative as mayor to ask staff members to change the name.

"Some years ago, someone in their bureaucratic wiseness decided to change the name to Holiday Parade. I just changed it back to its historically correct name," he said. "It's no big deal.

"There is a Christian holiday called Christmas that is celebrated in churches, and there is a Christian holiday called Christmas that is about Santa Claus and reindeer and snowmen and getting together with family and friends and having parades and all this stuff," Dalager said. "We are celebrating the American holiday called Christmas."

He said he will not change the name back.

The annual parade along South Coast Highway 101, the city's main drag, will be held Dec. 3 starting at 5:30 p.m.

Critics of the name change said the city is turning back the clock on religious and cultural tolerance at a time when many organizations have changed their Christmas celebrations to religion-neutral names, such as December Nights at Balboa Park instead of Christmas on the Prado.

They said the city should not favor a religion when it spends $4,000 to organize the parade, and they are trying to figure out how to change the name back to Holiday Parade.

"It is the ignorance that bothers me, the philosophy, the desire to exclude people, whether intentional or not," said Olivenhain resident Nan Sterman, who is Jewish.

Three community groups that had participated in previous parades have pulled out or indicated they will not take part this year because of the name change, said Chris Hazeltine, the city's parks and recreation director.

They are Leucadia Town Council, Bernese Mountain Dog Club of Southern California and Girl Scouts Seacoast Service Unit in Encinitas.

Rabbi David Frank of Temple Solel said many of the 800 households in his congregation will not attend.

"It makes it very difficult, obviously, to participate in this specifically Christian observance," Frank said.

Hazeltine said the mayor changed the parade's name at the beginning of this year when the city began planning its events.

Some critics accused Dalager of soliciting the support of two other council members in secret to switch from the Holiday Parade, violating the "Ralph M., Brown Act," which deems illegal any secret meetings among a majority of a legislative body.

Dalager denied the allegations and said he acted alone.

The number of community organizations applying to participate this year has dropped from last year's 95 to 82, Hazeltine said.

Last year's event attracted 30,000 spectators, city officials said.

Jennifer Zaayer, vice president of Bernese Mountain Dog Club of Southern California, said participating in the event would be taking a step backward.

"This reeks of a political time when people have their own agendas," she said. "I was shocked it was changed without being on the agenda for public comment."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: christmas; christmasparade; intolerance; jesuschrist; moralabsolutes
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To: pissant

There are so many nations to chose from. Why do we get so lucky with some of these idiots?


21 posted on 11/26/2005 12:18:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

True, but it will not stop idiots in Massachusetts from calling their tree the "holiday" tree. Of course, they may not realize that holiday means holy day....yet.


22 posted on 11/26/2005 12:18:43 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

SO now the Jewish lobby is against Christmas!?! WTF? Fine. It was Christmas, is Christmas, and always will be Christmas. When Hannukah rolls around, I want all mention of the Jewish holiday stricken from the media. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


23 posted on 11/26/2005 12:19:22 PM PST by steel_resolve
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To: pissant
They are Leucadia Town Council, Bernese Mountain Dog Club of Southern California and Girl Scouts Seacoast Service Unit in Encinitas.

The town council is playing PC madness. The dog club is probably a buncha peta wannabees, and the girl scouts have been infested by the homo/rainbow agenda for years. They won't be missed.

A Christmas Card to the Mayor would work! :-)

24 posted on 11/26/2005 12:19:51 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: narby

Egzakery...... They are welcome to put on a Hannaku parade if they so wish. A Christmas parade is not anti- anything, it is simply Pro- Christmas.


25 posted on 11/26/2005 12:20:05 PM PST by AmericanDave (Woe is the Income Tax......)
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To: DoughtyOne

Freedom means the freedom to be a disgusting retard, I guess.


26 posted on 11/26/2005 12:21:33 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
I thought they reversed course because the Canadian donor complained that he's been donating a "Christmas" tree for the past 30 years?

-PJ

27 posted on 11/26/2005 12:22:44 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: steel_resolve

And the stinker is that most claiming to be offended are not even slightly offended. They are just trying to tear down the country bib by bit.


28 posted on 11/26/2005 12:23:04 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

That's true. That's why I don't have any guilt over thinking he's a moron.


29 posted on 11/26/2005 12:23:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: pissant
Rabbi David Frank of Temple Solel said many of the 800 households in his congregation will not attend.
TFB - it's their loss.

"It makes it very difficult, obviously, to participate in this specifically Christian observance," Frank said.
Oh, so just changing the name back to Holiday Parade would make it okay? It's not too often you find a man of the cloth telling a fib.

Pssst, hey Rabbi ... Christ was Jewish.
30 posted on 11/26/2005 12:23:57 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: JoeSixPack1

I'm thinking the same thing....though agreeing with YOU scares me! ;o)


31 posted on 11/26/2005 12:24:00 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

LOL!! :-)


32 posted on 11/26/2005 12:24:33 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: pissant
Good for the Mayor...he made the correct decision.

Oh...and BTW....(all those who are offended may want to close their eyes at this point).......

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

redrock

33 posted on 11/26/2005 12:24:40 PM PST by redrock (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. --Will Rogers)
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To: pissant

We go to a neighbor's Hannukah party every year, and hardly find it an insult to ourselves as Christians.

I wish someone would tell the Jews at the local Temple mentioned in this article that instead of thumbing their noses at Christmas it would be better to reach out in reciprocal friendship. Jews and Christians should support each other. Let them give a Hannukah party and invite a few Christians to share in the festivities and gain a better understanding of Judaism.

Let me guess. They have a liberal Rabbi.


34 posted on 11/26/2005 12:25:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pissant

35 posted on 11/26/2005 12:25:50 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: narby

Or have a Christmas-Channukah-Kwanzaa-Ramadan-Ghambar Maidyozarem Parade. Whoever boats their float.


36 posted on 11/26/2005 12:26:00 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: steel_resolve

Hanukkah, the "Festival of Lights," starts on the 25th day of the Jewish calendar month of Kislev and lasts for eight days and nights. In 2005 Hanukkah begins at sundown on December 25.

a.k.a Christmas Day ! Everybody enjoy the parade!


37 posted on 11/26/2005 12:26:27 PM PST by Syberyenta
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To: pissant

There is a NATIONAL holiday called Christmas. Get used to it. That's how it's going to be.


38 posted on 11/26/2005 12:26:34 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Did they? Then good. But just the idea that the libs in MA would even contemplate it is proof of their general worthlessness.


39 posted on 11/26/2005 12:27:00 PM PST by pissant
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To: Nightshift

OK cities of America, here is your example! We're sick and tired of politically correct nonsense.

It's Christmas Charlie Brown!!


40 posted on 11/26/2005 12:27:26 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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