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{Oakland] Police, baffled by attacks on liquor stores, add patrols
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/26/5 | Rick DelVecchio, Jim Herron Zamora

Posted on 11/26/2005 11:10:49 AM PST by SmithL

Dressy appearance of vandals consistent with Nation of Islam, official in West Oakland says -

A surveillance video showing a dozen men in suits and bow ties filing into a West Oakland liquor store and confronting the manager before destroying rows of liquor bottles provides detailed images that could pinpoint the culprits and lead to hate crime charges, police said Friday.

The men who smashed up San Pablo Liquor at 11:30 p.m. Wednesday staged an almost identical attack about 10 minutes later at another West Oakland corner store, New York Market, police said. Deputy Police Chief Howard Jordan said no suspects have been identified, but the vandals' appearance points to a possible link to the Nation of Islam.

"A bunch of young African American men dressed in black suits, white shirts and bow ties -- consistent with the apparel of members of the Nation of Islam -- vandalized two stores," Jordan said, adding that investigators are taking steps to contact the group's hierarchy. "They told the owners not to sell alcohol in the African American community, and they began to vandalize the property."

No one was hurt in either incident, Jordan said.

Both liquor stores are in the same general neighborhood as a bakery and other businesses run by successors of the late Black Muslim leader Yusuf Bey, a follower of the Nation of Islam. Three members of the group have been victims of violence since Bey died in 2003, including Bey's 23-year-old-son, Antar, who was shot to death last month in what police believe was an attempted carjacking.

Workers at the Bey group's Black Muslim Bakery store on San Pablo Avenue said no one was available Friday to comment on the incidents at the liquor stores.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; nationofislam; oakland; trop
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To: SmithL

If we're going to try appeasment and colaboration, can't we round up all the mimes in a Vichy-like fasion?


21 posted on 11/26/2005 11:43:56 AM PST by lesser_satan
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To: Banjoguy

One stake out success would put an instant stop to it. In Atlanta, one video showing a stake out squad taking out a couple of gun wielding thieves, put a virtual halt to 7-11 robberies and murders. (Of course the black community started
using the 'R' word.) "They didn't deserve to die for robbin' a store."""

Maybe they didn't deserve to die "for robbing a store", but I'll bet they did deserve to die for all the crimes they committed that they didn't get caught doing.
I look at this kind of problem the same way I look at rattlesnakes:
A good rattlesnake is a dead rattlesnake.


22 posted on 11/26/2005 11:46:09 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: beltfed308
I heard on tv that Farrakhan bought up all the bow ties in the country.

23 posted on 11/26/2005 11:46:42 AM PST by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. Have a nice day.)
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To: SmithL

followers of Calypso Louie often wear dark suits and bow ties .............coincidence?


24 posted on 11/26/2005 11:48:35 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Blake#1
Here is my explanation (for what is it worth). Religious people are opposed to the hedonistic life style. The life style of "Sodom and Gomorra". It is a philosophy that will bind Christians, Muslims, Jews, et. al., to create a culture to their liking. In time these "religious people" will prevail!

Hope not. Sounds boring. Very, very boring. Like those twerps who come to the door.

25 posted on 11/26/2005 11:51:29 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: SmithL
Why can't they just go after the harmonica players and leave the rest of us alone?

I vote for mimes, they just piss me off.

26 posted on 11/26/2005 11:51:40 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: shooter223

Oakland newspaper is reporting that the cops think the perps are from a fine establishment known as "Your Black Muslim Bakery"

http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/localnews/ci_3254197

Some background on the glorious (deceased) founder:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/nationofislam/nationofislam31.html

Bakery website:
http://www.ybmb.com/

"Let's Make a Slave" (removed)
http://www.ybmb.com/make_a_slave_1712.html

Note that there was a link to "Security"...No longer there..
________________________________________

So, whay wait? Order a delicious bean pie today! Hand-made by Elijah Muhammed himself.


27 posted on 11/26/2005 11:54:22 AM PST by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: ridesthemiles

If I remember the film, one gun wielder was shaking the piece in front of the store clerk's face and threatening to kill...out came the squad from behind a fake wall and saved the taxpayers a lot of money....you should have seen the looks on the faces of the punks...priceless.


28 posted on 11/26/2005 12:23:37 PM PST by Banjoguy (I will rot in Hell before I buy another Dell!)
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To: SmithL

Carrie Nation wears hijab now?


29 posted on 11/26/2005 2:04:14 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: SmithL
Hard to believe they don't know who the local Muslim fanatics are. Pretty sloppy policing to be that ignorant of their own community.
30 posted on 11/26/2005 3:23:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: SmithL

Baffled?

White shirts and bow ties = Black Muslims, pure and simple


31 posted on 11/26/2005 3:32:55 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: I see my hands
"I heard on tv that Farrakhan bought up all the bow ties in the country."

When bow ties are banned.

Only criminals will wear them

32 posted on 11/26/2005 3:56:21 PM PST by spokeshave (A return to unified Democratic government is so unlikely as not to be worth considering)
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To: Blake#1

You've got to be kidding. Me, I'd rather be with the hedonists than with the Nation of Islam.


33 posted on 11/26/2005 4:12:43 PM PST by blueminnesota
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To: SmithL

It's amazing, the ignorance of people.

I guess none of the in or investigating the story have heard of all the attacks on liquor stores in Islamic countries. Iraq has had quite a few lately.


34 posted on 11/26/2005 5:26:27 PM PST by I still care
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To: SmithL

These misbegotten representations of humanity need to be put down like the vermin they are.


35 posted on 11/26/2005 5:29:59 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: harwood

Their bean pies are sinfully delicious,as my aunt used to say.FULL of butter,honey sweetened and spice flavored.
Stopped patronizing the place when it was revealed that the owner was molesting little girls.
Little BLACK girls I might add.


36 posted on 11/26/2005 5:35:57 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: blueminnesota

You should be careful, you may get what you wish for!


37 posted on 11/26/2005 5:44:28 PM PST by Blake#1
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