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1 posted on 11/26/2005 1:31:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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2 posted on 11/26/2005 1:37:16 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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Pro-immigration advocates say police shouldn't get into the business of immigration enforcement. That would encourage racial profiling and hinder police who investigate crimes against immigrants, they say.

Well "they" are a bunch of stupid idiots.

3 posted on 11/26/2005 1:39:12 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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A recent Austin lawsuit has drawn attention to the debate, fueling discussion of whether cities and towns should report illegal immigrants or leave enforcement to the federal government.



We did not fight a Civil War to have this sh!t come up again. Local conflicts of interests must be subject to the Union's free individuals' interests from degradation.


5 posted on 11/26/2005 1:44:56 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said President Bush had ordered him to take control of the 7,000 miles of northern and southern borders, and the goal is to catch and remove every person who enters the country illegally.

A red herring. If President Bush wanted him to follow his order, Chertoff would be following it. Instead, more talk.

9 posted on 11/26/2005 2:43:26 AM PST by nygoose
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"There are good people coming just to make a living,"

They're not "good people". They are Goths, vandals and Huns invading our country, lowering our standard of living, flaunting our laws and stretching our social support network.

And they most certainly are NOT immigrants. They are illegal invaders who have no desire to become Americans, just a need to parasitize our society for the benefit ofthemselves and the corrupt government which aids and abets them.

The current Administration has been a miserable failure in one of the most basic responsibilities of AANY government - to secure its borders against invasion. Unfortunately, the Democrats would be even worse.


12 posted on 11/26/2005 3:42:02 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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Tough employer sanctions, enforce them and most illegal aliens will go home as their income disappears


13 posted on 11/26/2005 3:44:24 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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Let's all stream into Mexico and see what a welcome we get. By the way, I caught a heavyhanded 'come to Mexico' vacation commercial on cable yesterday: An American (Jack), plays golf and shanks his ball into a marsh, tall grass, etc. The caddie, a darkhaired, smaller man, runs into the marsh, searches diligently. (We're to understand this happened in the past as it has a sepia tint.) Then full technicolor and Jack is back today, playing golf. The same caddie runs up and hands him the ball he'd lost (with 'Jack' and stars on it). The happy American asks the caddie if he'd like to play with them....and someone says, "You want the caddie to join us?" Jack says, "I want a Friend to play with us." The juxtaposition of the big, burly American and the wiry little Mexican, doffing his cap was supposed to make Americans feel ashamed. Big psychological ploy...Forget drug smuggling, criminals streaming here to commit crimes Americans won't, etc..America is mean to poor little Mexico.

Big finish! Rainbow letters....MEXICO... vacation here, yada yada yada. (Your old pals, reliable neighbors, etc.) This would work better, frankly, if a quarter of Mexico hadn't already fled north, and half of everybody left wasn't busy packing for the same trip. Of course, those stories about Mexican soldiers crossing the border, firing on US border agents and using a bulldozer to drag a drug truck back to Mexico don't help matters.


18 posted on 11/26/2005 4:15:49 AM PST by hershey
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"There ought to be more security here," said Zaragoza Zamora, who lives on a four-acre tract next to the river levee. "If somebody comes from another country, the police should question them — that would happen to me or you in another country."

See. The average American gets it.

Why can't GW? Is it because he wants what is happening? Doesn't care what's happening? Or, doesn't know what's happening in America?

Which is it, George?

22 posted on 11/26/2005 4:43:11 AM PST by raybbr
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"A lot of people who have had anti-immigrant sentiments all along are now trying to use concerns about national security to advance an anti-immigrant agenda," he said. (Prof. David Spener)

Apparently the professor can't discern the difference from an "immigrant" and an "illegal alien".


23 posted on 11/26/2005 4:44:45 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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Illegals Policies Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


27 posted on 11/26/2005 6:13:44 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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anti-immigrant activists

How long did it take to think up that PC phrase?

28 posted on 11/26/2005 6:28:50 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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The first ILLEGAL we should deport is George W. Bush. Problem solved!!!


29 posted on 11/26/2005 6:48:57 AM PST by devane617 (An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
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Every political survey that is done shows concern about immigration ranks up there with education, employment, and health care

Illegals should top those since they are causing many of the problems within the education, employment, and health care systems.

city employees do not discriminate against illegal immigrants

Rather than protecting it's citizens

56 percent opposed undocumented migrants' participation in a guest worker program proposed by President Bush

Brings to mind the old saying, "fish and guests begin to stink after 3 days."

Pro-immigration advocates say police shouldn't get into the business of immigration enforcement

Another special interest group wanting to only enforce the laws they want enforced.

Immigration law is incredibly complex

Very simple; citizen or not. Must be too complex for her pea brain.

99 percent or higher of the people crossing the border into the United States without proper documents are Latin American labor migrants ... not potential Muslim terrorists

Ok, so according to the professor, let's say 1% are terrorists. According to the Center for Immigration Service, there are 10 million illegals. At 1% we're looking at 100,000 potential terrorists. Divide that out and and we're looking at how many 9/11s? At first, that number is astounding until one looks at how many cells there are in America and that every week there's some suspicious AQ activity in the news.

30 posted on 11/26/2005 6:54:32 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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"National Council of La Raza, the largest national Hispanic advocacy organization. "If they did, it's very likely there would be racial profiling." "

La Raza has a slogan "For the race everything, for the others, nothing." This is their central belief and thus they are a racist organization devoted to trying to take part of Ametrican land and turn it into another "Turd World" mini-nation.

I find it ironic that a professional racist objects to racial profiling when it may snare the crinimals he supports as a matter of his organization's policy.

Mr. La Raza racist, meet Mr. Racism.

When will President Bush have treason proceedings instituted in the La Raza case?


36 posted on 11/26/2005 7:51:03 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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There are good people coming just to make a living

Their character is not the subject of their scorn. Their actions are.

That would encourage racial profiling

The vast majority of Hispanics (as well as Arabs) are a subset of European Caucasoids, They're "white". There is no racial profiling.

People need to remember that 99 percent or higher of the people crossing the border into the United States without proper documents are Latin American labor migrants ... not potential Muslim terrorists,

These "labor migrants" are economic terrorists on a grander scale than Muslin terrorists ever hoped to be. They are bankrupting local governments and destroying the safety nets for the US middle class. These "labor migrants" have done more economic damage to the US economy than both trade center attacks in New York.

A lot of people who have had anti-immigrant sentiments all along are now trying to use concerns about national security to advance an anti-immigrant agenda.

Probably the left's most potent weapon in this war of words. Words have meanings. Erasing the difference between regulated and unregulated immigration, while not subtle, is effective. The ploy started when illegal aliens became undocumented immigrants.

39 posted on 11/26/2005 8:07:08 AM PST by Amerigomag
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41 posted on 11/26/2005 8:13:32 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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Policies protecting illegal migrants draw fire ("Awakening" vs discriminating against illegals)



-----What part of "illegal" do these twits not understand? Protecting American borders should come first, not the rights of a bunch of illegal trash flooding into the country

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1525711/posts


43 posted on 11/26/2005 8:17:23 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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Maybe it's just me, but it really makes my head spin to have to read about groups forming that oppose something that is illegal.

If it's illegal, aren't we supposed to have groups that take care of it?

ALL of our elected officials have been more than miserable failures at regulating immigration according to our existing laws...they have been nearly treasonous.

We need to change the language on this debate and stop talking about new solutions and "marrying" different perspectives to solve the problem or to allow for immigrants. We HAVE a solution, it's the current immigration laws and processes. What we need to do is ENFORCE them.


46 posted on 11/26/2005 8:26:58 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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"People need to remember that 99 percent or higher of the people crossing the border into the United States without proper documents are Latin American labor migrants ... not potential Muslim terrorists," said Prof. David Spener, a sociology professor at Trinity University in San Antonio.

I must be the only conservative in the US with a degree in Sociology. Talk about lonely.

No one on the left can dare utter the word "illegal".

What this "Richard Head" and his ilk just don't get is that *why* they came here is not relevant. They are here illegally-that is all that matters.

49 posted on 11/26/2005 8:43:53 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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50 posted on 11/26/2005 9:05:18 AM PST by gubamyster
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