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Greenhouse-gas levels highest for 650,000 years
news@nature.com ^ | 24 November 2005 | Michael Hopkin

Posted on 11/25/2005 10:41:45 PM PST by neverdem

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The newly analysed ice does show that although the climate is in constant flux, it is capable of producing extended warm phases even when carbon dioxide levels are stable, says Stocker. Two places in the record, for example, are marked by periods of almost 30,000 years when temperature hardly changed at all. And the beginning of these 'interglacial' phases was not linked to rises in carbon dioxide.

That's not to say that current rises in temperature are due to natural shifts, as some climate-change sceptics have claimed. "The CO2 emitted now is not part of the natural cycle," Stocker points out.

Hmmm


Tiny bubbles in ice hundreds of thousands of years old hold the key to understanding greenhouse gases, past and future.
© W. Berner/University of Bern

Ancient air bubbles shed light on greenhouse gases (Global Warming) AP version

Rise in Gases Unmatched by a History in Ancient Ice NY Times

While the overall climate pattern has been set by rhythmic variations in Earth's orientation to the Sun, the records show that carbon dioxide and methane consistently made the interglacial climate warmer than it would otherwise have been, said Thomas Stocker, one of the researchers and a physicist at the University of Bern in Switzerland.

1 posted on 11/25/2005 10:41:46 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
LOL, What were the green house gas levels 650,000 years ago?
Did Al Gore record them when he was inventing the internet?
2 posted on 11/25/2005 10:47:18 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: neverdem
Current levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are higher than at any time in the past 650,000 years.

What great news! Since it was considerably warmer as recently as 1,000 years ago (when Greenland was actually "green"), I guess we can disregard all of these dire predictions about greenhouse gas emissions and start gassing up our SUVs again. The idea that man-made activity can influence the earth's weather patterns is a joke.

3 posted on 11/25/2005 10:53:34 PM PST by CALawyer
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To: CALawyer

Global warming has saved us from what would otherwise have been another ice age.


4 posted on 11/25/2005 10:56:17 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: neverdem
Well, the world has been around for anywhere from 4 to 6 billion years. Modern humans (Homo Sapiens), have been around for (very debatable) anywhere from 350,000 to 1.5 years. These numbers are off the top of my head, but its seems to me that the world has been through some drastic changes. Most of it has happened while life has been present. I know that most of it supposedly has only been during the existence of bacteria, but da_n, give us a shot here, we are one very adaptable critter. If you want to go with the Earth only being a few thousand years old, then you can ignore this post. Please add more relevant info, as I said, these numbers are off top of my head. I am pretty good at remembering the sequences and processes, but stink at dates.(ask my wife!)
5 posted on 11/25/2005 11:01:36 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: neverdem

Being alive is a threat to being alive.


6 posted on 11/25/2005 11:02:09 PM PST by melt (She who dies with the most shoes... wins.)
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To: neverdem

In a related story, Mexican food has become the most popular type of food worldwide.


7 posted on 11/25/2005 11:11:16 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: neverdem

There is no time to lose. We have to send more factories to China.


8 posted on 11/25/2005 11:14:44 PM PST by marron
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To: neverdem
"The situation is similar for methane: during this period, levels hovered around 600 parts per billion. Today's atmospheric methane concentration is well over 1,700."
This of course comes from cows.
Apparently, cows drive big cars. This is why the CO2 is up.
I knew it. (Conspiracy undertone sacracm off{or is it?})
9 posted on 11/25/2005 11:18:12 PM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: melt

The greatest cause of cancer is getting old.


10 posted on 11/25/2005 11:37:21 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: neverdem

Im uncertain but death seems inevitable


11 posted on 11/25/2005 11:38:56 PM PST by woofie (Hating GW Bush Never Fed a Hungry Child)
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let me get this straight, man cannot make it rain, or sprinkle for that matter, or snow or have any effect whatsoever on the weather, yet if we all drive little hybred cars we can cool an entire planet...oooooooooooooooooook


12 posted on 11/25/2005 11:42:37 PM PST by basalt
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To: neverdem
This just in...

Archeologists have just discovered an ancient tablet buried in the mud in the Carribean...

After deencryption, it chronicles the passage of major legislation in ancient Atlantis about 650,000 years ago by then Atlantian emporer, Alus Gorexia, to outlaw Space-Alien Universal Vehicles (SUVs) for environmental reasons.

Corroborating evidence? You decide.

13 posted on 11/25/2005 11:45:47 PM PST by MCH
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To: aliquando

Agriculture has been around for 10,000 years, all of it climatically stable. All civilizations are dependent on agriculture.


14 posted on 11/26/2005 12:36:43 AM PST by UncleJeff
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To: MJY1288

These ECO Farts augment the increasing rise of methane gas also!

650,000 years ago the gases were higher but then, THE WORLD DID NOT END!


15 posted on 11/26/2005 1:16:16 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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"The CO2 emitted now is not part of the natural cycle," Stocker points out.



THEY ARE PART OF THE NATURAL CYCLE. What a moron!


16 posted on 11/26/2005 1:18:51 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: neverdem
BS. Pure take data and make it say what I want to believe for Political reasons junk science. Sorry but this is just more "Green" propaganda. 1 volcano eruption does more damage then all "man made" pollution. Since this time frame would cover periods of extended vulcanism, it is pure nonsense to claim "man man" damage. Just stupid propaganda
17 posted on 11/26/2005 1:26:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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"Current levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are higher than at any time in the past 650,000 years..."

With a little effort we can beat that record.


18 posted on 11/26/2005 4:06:47 AM PST by BadAndy (Note to Democrats: Benedict Arnold also called himself a patriot.)
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1 volcano eruption does more damage then all "man made" pollution

I don't think that is anywhere near true

19 posted on 11/26/2005 4:14:50 AM PST by bobdsmith
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I don't think that is anywhere near true

That is the whole problem, most Greens obviously do not think. It is a basic fact. Think about it. One volcano pumps out thousands of tons of material directly into the upper atmosphere.

Kracatoa blew up and the year 1776-1777 was known as "the year with out a summer" because it effected globally the world's weather patterns. Not a "gradual centuries long change" of the Hysteric Leftists but a direct world wide change within months of the eruption. The facts are NOT on the side of the Environmental Wackos with their Socialism in drag "green" dogma.

20 posted on 11/26/2005 4:26:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("You cannot kill hope with bombs and bullets" Sgt. Clay Smith)
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