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New Iraq strategy: Stay in hot spots ~~ MSM suddenly discovering the strategy in Iraq?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | November 23, 2005 edition | Scott Peterson | Staff writer

Posted on 11/25/2005 1:07:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

To keep insurgents from retaking towns, US troops are now setting up local camps.

By Scott Peterson | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

FALLUJAH, IRAQ - As US Marines battle insurgents in a string of towns in Iraq's western Anbar Province, they are applying lessons learned from their experience in Fallujah: Flush out insurgents, then stay there.

Some of those farming towns, along the Euphrates River, have been cleared and cleared again up to three times during the past year, as militants reestablish their grip when US and Iraqi forces depart.

Now marines are setting up temporary camp in these remote outposts - just as they did here in Fallujah a year ago, when marines cleared the city of Al Qaeda and nationalist insurgents, who had turned the city into a haven for kidnapping gangs and a launching pad for suicide attacks on Baghdad.

The key lesson from the Fallujah battle? "Go and stay," says Col. Dave Berger, commander of Regimental Combat Team 8. "The worst thing you can do is go and then leave. If you go, get something done and leave, each time you leave you lose [the Iraqis'] trust"

It was Fallujah where the US military decided to set a precedent in Iraq, hoping that a full-scale offensive - which heavily damaged the city - followed by a carefully controlled return of the 300,000 residents, would undermine the insurgency.

During that offensive last November, some US forces controversially used white phosphorus incendiary rounds against insurgent strongholds. But US officials deny reports that they targeted civilians.

Berger calls Fallujah today a test-case "biosphere." Since the offensive the city has been ringed with a half-dozen checkpoints, open only to residents with special identity cards. Americans have controlled variables here, like nowhere else in Iraq.

But the line is fine between having a security presence and helping rebuild a sustainable economy and infrastructure, as marines are attempting here. And while Fallujah may be reporting some success, it has also received the most US attention and forces; a fact that can't be duplicated in every trouble spot.

"It's going to be hard to convince [Iraqis] we're going to stay this time" in other towns, says Colonel Berger, a Farnham, Va., native who spent last year atthe Johns Hopkins School for Advanced International Studies, and still keeps in touch with security experts there.

Another senior Marine officer, speaking off the record, estimated it would take twice as many marines on the ground to copy the Fallujah model everywhere. Currently there are 22,000 US Marines in western Iraq. And such a boost in manpower might not be advisable, considering the different circumstances of each town.

"We are always going to be viewed by many Iraqis as an occupation force, and we can't change that perception," says Berger. "The best we can do is ... make our signature lower and lower."

The price of a steady presence has been high. One marine and 15 Iraqi civilians were killed Saturday by a roadside bomb in Haditha, the 2nd Marine Division said Monday. It noted that eight insurgents were also killed, and that in October marines had launched assaults there and in Barwana and Haqlaniyah "to establish bases to maintain a long-term security presence."

Likewise, marine units that began a new US-Iraqi offensive, Operation Steel Curtain, on Nov. 5 quickly set up temporary bases in Husayba, Karabila,and Obeidi as they took towns from militants.

The Pentagon is planning to issue a directive that will codify that strategy, by turning "what it calls 'stability operations' into a core military mission comparable to full-scale combat," The New York Times reported Sunday.

There have been no announced plans to increase the overall number of US forces in Iraq. But the Fallujah strategy of "go and stay" is a mind-set that is already filtering down to combat units that are trained to kill an enemy. Marines interviewed say that progress on civil affairs is an equally important metric of success in places like Fallujah - and that winning the peace often proves more difficult than winning the war.

"Once you take a city, you've got to go through it slowly and clear it," says Capt. William Grube, commander of Fox Company, of the 2nd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, whose unit lives in and helps patrol the city. He says previous operations in Anbar Province, where US and Iraqi forces attacked and then withdrew, were simply "playing whack-a-mole."

"At some point, you need to take it, and sit there, and hold it for real," says Captain Grube, from Emmaus, Pa. In Fallujah, "the longer we have the place stable, the more chance there is to undermine support for insurgents."

"When you look at the near term, of course it is going to be negative," says Grube, about Fallujan views of how badly damaged their city was by the offensive. So he takes the long view - one that many Iraqis remain uncertain about.

"I don't think they will wake up one day and say, 'I'm all for transparency and the rights of man,'" says Grube. "We have to show by example that you can be powerful, but not a brutal conqueror."

That label is often applied to US forces in Fallujah by residents of this Sunni city that once gave bedrock support to Saddam Hussein. "Fallujah, from day one [of the US attack] to now, is like a big prison - you have a time limit to get out, and to get in, and a [curfew] time you must sleep," says Sheikh Ahmed Sarhan Abd, deputy head of the Fallujah Sheikhs Council. "This emergency situation was supposed to last three or four months, not one year."

"We have not really seen happiness during the Eid [religious celebration]," says Sheikh Ahmed, who blames Iraqi police and army, as well as US forces. "If we want to go to the mosque, Iraqi forces stand at the doorway with guns. Yes, there are insurgents, but you can't put students and our sons in the same basket."



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: algeriastrategy; iraq; oif; wronterror

1 posted on 11/25/2005 1:07:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Bill Roggio reports on this on the ThreatsWatch Blog:

Coalition forces press operations in Ramadi and Bayji, and some begin to notice there really is a plan.

See the last paragraph.

2 posted on 11/25/2005 1:10:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We are there to kill terrorists.

You don't kill them by occupying towns.

You kill them by giving them locations to congregate; when they oblige us, we kill them.

God Bless Rumsfeld for proving to the thugs of the world that just 150,000 American Soldiers can be rapidly deployed to take out huge armies, put thugs in jail, and enable the citizens to begin a Democracy.


3 posted on 11/25/2005 1:14:13 PM PST by WBL 1952
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To: WBL 1952
"MSM suddenly discovering the strategy in Iraq?"

Hum? Did the MSM suddenly trip over this or did a 2x4 smack them in the face with this revelation.
4 posted on 11/25/2005 1:19:48 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

How close is Iraq to having,
police presence, all the time, everywhere?


5 posted on 11/25/2005 1:36:11 PM PST by greasepaint
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To: K-oneTexas

I thought that we had learned this lesson in Vietnam -

If you chopper in and then chopper out, you only control the location while you're there. The enemy fades away while you're there and comes back and shoots everyone who talked to you while you were on the ground.

The second time you come around, nobody is dumb enough to talk to you.


6 posted on 11/25/2005 1:37:44 PM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: greasepaint

That is the $64,000 question!


7 posted on 11/25/2005 1:49:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: lOKKI
We learned. We being the military and those with common sense. The MSM and the politicians never learn. Not even from their mistakes.
8 posted on 11/25/2005 1:50:13 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: WBL 1952

When you think of the numbers it's pretty awesome isn't it! But we knew that...


9 posted on 11/25/2005 1:52:50 PM PST by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

.....they are applying lessons learned from their experience in Fallujah: Flush out insurgents, then stay there.....

What a maroon..... This is the lesson learned in in the game Risk. You capture enemy space and you hold it.


10 posted on 11/25/2005 1:53:59 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: brushcop
I think the number count is the biggest mistake people make. To dumb it down they talk of troop levels but units and people come and go all the time.
We have been transferring operating locations as fast as we can bring them up to speed. To observe that we came and left ignores the fact that if we kept troops in place we would not have been able to do operations elsewhere. I will leave it to the experts to pick the location of their next trap.
11 posted on 11/25/2005 2:43:02 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: K-oneTexas
Two new threads show others assisting in bringing into the fold. This is the prefered diplomatic/political action. As opposed to the action of last resort, when all diplomatic/political action fails: sent in the troops.

US Sup. Court upholds anti-PA ruling AP ^ | 11/28/5 Posted on 11/28/2005 2:44:12 PM CST by SmithL
The US Supreme Court refused Monday to disturb a $116 million judgment against the Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization in the deaths of a Jewish couple near the West Bank.
EU: Hamas must recognize Israel Jerusalem Post ^ | 11/28/5 | TOVAH LAZAROFF Posted on 11/28/2005 2:37:44 PM CST by SmithL Hamas "will remain in the EU list of terrorist organizations" until it "recognizes the state of Israel" and "commits to solving the conflict through peaceful means," the EU's Ambassador to Israel Ramiro Cibrian-Uzal told reporters during a meeting with the press on Monday.


Maybe a winner.
12 posted on 11/28/2005 12:54:34 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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