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Twins drown while father is gaming
Joystiq ^ | Nov 25, 2005 | James Ransom-Wiley

Posted on 11/25/2005 11:52:58 AM PST by jb6

A Fostoria (Ohio) man pleaded guilty Wednesday to two counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection to the drowning-deaths of his 10-month-old twins. On August 7, Gregg J. Kleinmark, 24, left his sons unattended in a bathtub for 30 minutes while he played a “computer game” three rooms away. One report suggests that Kleinmark was playing a Game Boy Advance, which as we know, is portable and could have been just as easily used in the bathroom while supervising the infants. Kleinmark is facing up to 10 years in prison


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: children; crime; darwinaward; gaming; idiot; idiotic; oops; parent; parents; twins; videogames
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1 posted on 11/25/2005 11:53:00 AM PST by jb6
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One report suggests that Kleinmark was playing a Game Boy Advance

Idiot. He could've taken it into the bathroom with the kids.

2 posted on 11/25/2005 11:57:42 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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10 months old? No way can you leave babies that young alone anywhere except a playpen. ESPECIALLY a bath tub.

What a shame.


3 posted on 11/25/2005 12:00:18 PM PST by No Blue States
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10 months. I must be to old fashioned. I would let my kids take a bath without me or their Mom till they were a lot older.


5 posted on 11/25/2005 12:01:11 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: jb6

Poster father for forced sterilization...


6 posted on 11/25/2005 12:01:36 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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Doesn't sound as if it were involuntary to me. Ten years? That's it?!

And so another example of how cheaply we value the lives of children.

Culture of Death? Yes, that sounds about right.

7 posted on 11/25/2005 12:03:19 PM PST by mother22wife21
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Changing the subject -- not a commentary on the article -- but the headline.

Is playing video games the same as "gaming?"

I thought gaming was gambling.


8 posted on 11/25/2005 12:05:00 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: mother22wife21

As the father of 4 1/2 month old twin girls. I am deeply saddened and shocked. He should be locked up and nver let out. My girls are never left unattended.


9 posted on 11/25/2005 12:06:02 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: mother22wife21

Until they can hold their breath under water they cant be left alone in or around it.

Also, I suspect foul play here.


10 posted on 11/25/2005 12:06:07 PM PST by No Blue States
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Stupid father. Give the kids a bath, feed them and put them to sleep THEN play your fricking video game.


11 posted on 11/25/2005 12:07:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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Heck I did not let my daughter start staying home rather than go to the grocery store until 13.


12 posted on 11/25/2005 12:08:33 PM PST by doodad
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I wonder where the mother was.

Its a good idea to make sure the parents let the other one know who is watching. It reminds me of a hand off in football. You dont let go until the other takes possession. Just so there is never the "I thought you were watching them" possibility.
13 posted on 11/25/2005 12:13:05 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Exactly, my daughters go to bed at 8 to 8:30. Then mom and dad get to play.


14 posted on 11/25/2005 12:13:30 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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Congrats on your twins!
(Im hoping for a son in July)


15 posted on 11/25/2005 12:14:02 PM PST by No Blue States
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I think what everyone is leaving out here is that the man *was* working on a new high score, and that certainly counts for something...


16 posted on 11/25/2005 12:14:12 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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If I am playing Warbirds 2005 and we just turned off the IP and are on the bomb run, the kids are going to have to hold their breaths a little longer.

Actually my kids are grown and gone, but the dogs don't always get in when the are scratching on the door at times like that.


17 posted on 11/25/2005 12:15:32 PM PST by U S Army EOD (I NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER TAG LINE)
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That is just horrible. He must be a complete idiot. Losing a child is the most horrible thing a person can go through and for him to have no regard in that he left his babies alone suggests something is wrong with him! I hope he gets his in prison.


18 posted on 11/25/2005 12:15:48 PM PST by malachismom
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To: mother22wife21

It's all for the children, just like abortion.


19 posted on 11/25/2005 12:16:14 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: i_dont_chat

Gaming is also role playing games.


20 posted on 11/25/2005 12:16:37 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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