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To: Right Wing Professor

"But I take my teaching way too seriously to brag about how my course was an effort, in effect, to 'stick it to the fundies'."

You miss the point. Just *wanting* to 'stick it to the fundies' is indicative of severe corruption of the worldview, whether one acts out or not.

You can look at young-earth creationists and think them fools, but this country treasures its freedom of religion. That includes freedom from having it "stuck to you" in public places.

Suppose this guy wanted to "stick it to the Jews." What does the picture look like in that case?

This particular religious bigot may be in arts and parties rather than hard sciences, but there are equally bigoted instructors in departments such as physics, chemistry, and biology on campuses across the country. And many of them also use their classrooms to try and "stick it" not just to the fundies, but to anyone who believes in anything.

The entire "mention ID in the classroom" movement arose in reaction to this.


37 posted on 11/25/2005 9:36:49 AM PST by dsc
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To: dsc
You can look at young-earth creationists and think them fools, but this country treasures its freedom of religion. That includes freedom from having it "stuck to you" in public places.

Sure thing, Mullah Omar. But here in America, we have this thing called "free speech".

64 posted on 11/25/2005 11:12:21 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: dsc
The entire "mention ID in the classroom" movement arose in reaction to this.

Exactly! That's exactly what ID is. It's a reaction. The evangelical atheists don't see how they just feed it.

85 posted on 11/25/2005 12:01:55 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: dsc

> Just *wanting* to 'stick it to the fundies' is indicative of severe corruption of the worldview, whether one acts out or not.


Really? Do you even know what he meant by "stick it" in this context.?

> That includes freedom from having it "stuck to you" in public places.

Hardly. If you saw, say, a Scientologist or a Wahabbi on a streetcorner handing out literature, you have the freedom to "stick it" to him by handing out debunking literature, engaging in debate or even mocking. You do not exactly have the freedom to lie, but you do, as with the case with the prof, have the freedom to point out the flaws, inconsistences, lies and whatnot in your opponents worldview.


92 posted on 11/25/2005 12:22:11 PM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: dsc
this country treasures its freedom of religion. That includes freedom from having it "stuck to you" in public places.

That's simply not true. I could go out on a public street tomorrow and stick it to any religious group at all with speech and text. There would only be a basis for physically preventing me if it was determined that I was inciting a riot or some other tangential consideration.

Speech is protected. You are not protected from having your feelings hurt.
368 posted on 11/26/2005 8:01:41 PM PST by aNYCguy
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