[orionblamblam]

> Just *wanting* to 'stick it to the fundies' is indicative of severe corruption of the worldview, whether one acts out or not.


Really? Do you even know what he meant by "stick it" in this context.?

> That includes freedom from having it "stuck to you" in public places.

Hardly. If you saw, say, a Scientologist or a Wahabbi on a streetcorner handing out literature, you have the freedom to "stick it" to him by handing out debunking literature, engaging in debate or even mocking. You do not exactly have the freedom to lie, but you do, as with the case with the prof, have the freedom to point out the flaws, inconsistences, lies and whatnot in your opponents worldview.

[Dimensio]

You do not exactly have the freedom to lie

Yes he does. Creationists excercise that freedom on these forums all the time.

[dsc]

"Really? Do you even know what he meant by "stick it" in this context.?"

Oh, yes.

"If you saw, say, a Scientologist or a Wahabbi on a streetcorner handing out literature, you have the freedom to "stick it" to him by handing out debunking literature, engaging in debate or even mocking."

Acctually, your freedoms in that area are not without limit. For instance, he may not want to debate you, and if you refuse to leave him alone, your behavior might be criminal. Mocking, as well, is in many places regarded as provoking speech, and in some jurisdictions you can be arrested for that.

Further, this took place in a state school. Your position is tantamount to arguing that it is a violation of separation of church and state to promote religion, while it is perfectly permissible to mock religion with public funds.

"You do not exactly have the freedom to lie"

And who is going to distinguish between honest mistake and lie? There are many God-haters right here on these FR threads who have a history of asserting that statements they disagree with are "lies," just like the DUmmies do.

"You do, as with the case with the prof, have the freedom to point out the flaws, inconsistences, lies and whatnot in your opponents worldview."

No, not "as with the prof." What he did was not reasoned argument, but an abuse of power to slap people he hates in the face. And he did it with public funds.